From: cllc@comcast.net
Subject: Re: [mosaic] Non-Fiction Matters
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 00:51:39 +0000

Has anyone used Write Time for Kids, a non-fiction writing and reading
program
by Teacher Created Materials, grades K-8. A sales rep came to our district
writing assessment committee to make a quick presentation and left up
samples to
try out. It looks good. The lessons are cards that are pages from Time
Magazine for Kids and then focus on a writing strategy, convention skill, or
writers' craft lesson. Some of the cards are also on transparencies.
Anyone
using it?
Carol/CA/2
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From: "Ginger/Rob" <elephant@foxvalley.net>
Subject: [mosaic] 3 column note taking/Lori
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 19:56:08 -0500

Hi Lori. Could you talk to us about your 3 column note sheet? I see.... I
read.... I think...

Would the students always fill in all three columns or just I see.... I
think.... if it is a picture response only? And I read.... I think.... if
it a text response only?

Thanks
Ginger
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Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 20:36:43 -0700
From: Lori Jackson <ljackson@gwtc.net>
Subject: Re: [mosaic] 3 column note taking/Lori

I see...

A column for information drawn from the photo. In the picture of what turns
out to
be the eye of a rabbit and the habbitat on the accompanying page I imagine a
child
might write.

I see fur, so I know it is a mammal.
It doesn't look like Africa or Asia, maybe it is North Americal.

I read...

long ears poking into the sky
The tnoisey tractor has frightened him.
hops away
giant leap
warren

I think...

It might be a rabbit because leaping is like jumping and it says "hop" and
rabbits
hop. Rabbits have fur, so that works. I wonder if a warren is like a
burrow.

What I am envisioning is a way for children to integrate visual literacy,
print and
their own experiences.

Lori
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From: "Andy & Shelly Kennedy" <pristine@aclass.com>
Subject: [mosaic] non-fiction
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 20:36:08 -0500

Carrie - Russell Freedman has great Non-Fiction books. Won't you be
teaching SS too - Buffalo Hunt and Immigrant Kids are two that I use. :)
SHELLY
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From: H1Edwards@aol.com
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 21:49:37 EDT
Subject: Re: [mosaic] Reading with Meaning

I am currently reading this book and thoroughly enjoying it. It really
pushes you to reflect on what you believe about various aspects of teaching.
She
tells you that when you are able to explain the philosophy behind the things
you do in your classroom and can back it up with research--people will
listen!
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From: "Joe & Karla McAdam" <jlmcadam3@ameritech.net>
Subject: Re: [mosaic] Nonfiction
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 21:22:07 -0500

I have not seen the book, In The Blink of an Eye, except when I pulled it up
on amazon.com. Wow! I love the cover! From your description, Lori, I can
see possibilities for 6th grade. It sounds like we could use it in science
when we discuss and look at issues like camouflage, biomes, habitats, and
adaptations.

Do you think little ones could use a loupe or a small magnifying glass to
take a closer look at the animals and their eyes? I could see using one to
have 6th graders take a closer look at color combinations and blending.
Then I might have them "reproduce" a small section. Just random thoughts.

~karla
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Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 21:37:43 -0700
From: Lori Jackson <ljackson@gwtc.net>
Subject: Re: [mosaic] Nonfiction

You don't see the animals, jsut the eyes and on the opposite page a picture
of the
habitat which includes people. The ending has a very telling painting,
showing a
window looking upon all the animals crowded together.

"Wherever you go, remember you are not alone. Learn to see the creatures
that
share your world."

Isn't that lovely? Can you see encouraging a naturalist study of a
photograph of a
favorite animal eye and the writing of the poetic, factual riddle to
accompany
it? I love this book...

Lori
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From: "Andy & Shelly Kennedy" <pristine@aclass.com>
Subject: [mosaic] Ch. 2 Mosaic Book Talk and Mosaic FILES
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 21:28:32 -0500

Ch. 2: Mind Journeys
The first thing that hit me reading Mosaic a second time is when Debbie
Miller discusses how Reading had always been a mystery to her. "How
can we ever know what goes on in their minds when they're reading" she
asked. Well, I think I mentioned earlier my fear of teaching primary. I
used to think (in very naive fashion) that it was the primary teachers'
responsibility to teach kids how to read. I KNOW THAT WAS SOOOO WRONG.
Then intermediate teachers would use those reading skills to get into
that Science and SS content. I REALIZE NOW HOW MUCH RESPONSIBILITY WE
ALL HAVE to teach them to read. We need to teach them not what to think
but how to think and to model the strategies and teach them how to use
them to become proficient readers

P. 15 Debbie pushed her point. "I remember Tip and
Mitten. I remember SRA. I remember 'read the chapter and answer the
comprehension questions' and, you know what?" she challenged, "I learned
to read just fine with all those methods we now consider obsolete. I
don't really know what to say when parents or my principal ask my why
I'm doing things differently now. I have a hard time answering their
questions. I can't very well tell them I'm having much more fun
teaching a new way, though that is very true!"

Certainly I learned to read well at a literal level but never at a deep
level like I see my fifth graders getting to now. I am so jealous that
I didn't learn with these strategies! :) I am having so much fun with
this too. Fountas and Pinnell - Guiding REaders and WRiters has really
helped me with the workshop format as well!

P. 24 quote - "Is it too simplistic to think that if
proficient readers use the same strategies to :construct meaning when
they read in virtually any kind of text, that it might be possible to
help kids become more aware of their own reading processes and then to
reach them to improve their comprehension?"

I am just awed by the think-aloud strategy and the use of it related to
the strategies.

The Math Essentials Assignments helped me so much. I thought I would
share with you all what I did over the last year. I created files with
the following titles. In the beginning (and hopefully when school
starts again) people shared their lessons on the list tied to differet
tradebooks. I created file folders for each of the strategeis and
sub-parts and have tons of resources printed from this list and other
sites.

Here are the folders you can create if you like:

-Mosaic General Info

-Metacognition

-Schema with the following subfolders - Connections, -Text to Self
Connections, -Text to Text Connections, -Text to World Connections,
-Genre Schema (with subfolders on the each of the genres), -Author
Schema

-Determining Importance - subfolders on Symbolism and Themes

-Questioning

-Visual and Sensory Imagery

-Drawing inferences

-Synthesizing

-Fix-Up Strategies

For awhile I printed everything. Now I am more selective to print the
lessons that I really see myself using in the future with a strategy.

P. 27 ...text-to-self connections, text-to-world connections, and
text-to-text connections

The first reading I glazed right past this - scary - I was in a book
talk at school and they talked about connections. This was all so new
that I didn't even remember reading it. It is such a part of my everyday
vocabulary now (in and out of school.)
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From: Bethany220@aol.com
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 22:43:54 EDT
Subject: Re: [mosaic] non-fiction books

I agree...The Mondo Big Books are great., I also found the Newbridge
Non-fiction to be great as well......
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Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 19:26:41 -0700
From: Katharine Klevinskas <katha@syix.com>
Subject: Re: [mosaic] non-fiction books

I have a book called, "Is That a Fact? Teaching Nonfiction (sic)
writing K-3" by Tony Stead.

I saw him speak once and he was phenominal. But I haven't even
cracked this book yet. I went and dug it out due to this non-fiction
thread.

So, I guess I'll start reading it. Has anyone else?

Katharine/1st/N.California
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From: "Lisa Repaskey" <chesna03@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [mosaic] non-fiction books
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 23:01:05 -0400

Tony Stead is a wonderful speaker.....he was part of a group that was
training teachers in Oakland, California about 6 years ago. He's been
working in the New York City Public Schools for several years, through the
MONDO publishing company. I loved his Australian accent!

Lisa/NC/1
http://www.myschoolonline.com/NC/Tiggerkyds
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Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 22:40:31 -0700
From: Lori Jackson <ljackson@gwtc.net>
Subject: Re: [mosaic] non-fiction books

Katherine,

Crack it immediately! It is a wonderful book. I leanred so much from it
and found
it hard to put down.

Lori
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From: JATShaw@aol.com
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 00:35:09 EDT
Subject: Re: [mosaic] Inference & Nonfiction

In a message dated 7/30/2003 4:25:12 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
ljackson@gwtc.net writes:

> a striking new nonfiction book

The Water Hole by Graeme Base was new in 2001 and has fascinating pictures
with lots to discover in each one and a subtle environmental message as
well.
Our whole staff enjoyed it as did some of our adult students!
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From: "Joan Matuga" <joan3teach@hotmail.com>
Subject: [mosaic] Dyslexia
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 22:31:07 -0700
Reply-To: mosaic@u46teachers.org

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Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 22:40:14 -0700
Subject: Re: [mosaic] Dyslexia
From: "Janet Holbrook" <jmholbrook@earthlink.net>

Joan--

I have not read the book but I did read the Time Magazine article. I've
been both a reading specialist and a classroom teacher. I always worry when
what's good for those who are struggling is generalized to the whole
classroom. As a reading specialist, I can understand why Dr. Shawyitz might
recommend Open Court and HM for some children. As a classroom teacher, I
hate to see all children limited to just these programs.

Janet
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From: "Joan Matuga" <joan3teach@hotmail.com>
To: mosaic@u46teachers.org
Subject: [mosaic] Dyslexia
Date: Wed, Jul 30, 2003, 10:31 PM

I read Overcoming Dyslexia by Sally Shawyitz this summer. She is a
well-known expert on dyslexia. The cover story in Time Magazine was on this
subject and her book was really featured in this article.

She is a strong proponent on phonics (ad was a member of the National
Reading Panel. She has some interesting points especially as to some
misconceptions about dyslexia. For example, boys are identified about 5
times more frequently than girls but the ratio is about the same. Students
are identified way too late. They don't "grow out of it" without extensive
help. Most RSP program are not successful with these students -- in-class
or pull-out The brains of students with dyslexia are different from the
brains of students without it. Even though some students learn the phonics
rules, their brain doesn't have an automatic "express route" that aids in
speedy reading. There is a particular area in the back of the brain that is
developed in a nonimpaired reader. The dyslexic reader, on the other hand,
overactivates an area in the front of the brain. They are often very slow
readers, have poor handwriting, and are poor spellers.

At the close of her book, she provides success stories of people who have
overcome dyslexia. Her last words are, "Today, each dyslexic child is free
to devop his talents and to pursue his dreams -- and to know he will
suceed. Dyslexia can be overcome." (366)

Dr. Shaywitz is an advocate for Open Court and the 2003 HM California Legacy
edition.

We all have students who word call but can't comprehend.

Has anyone else read this book? Any comments on how this fits into our
discussions?

Have a wonderful day! Joan
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Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 07:06:51 -0400
From: Dave & Deb Smith <d-smith@cybersol.com>
Subject: Re: [mosaic] non-fiction books

I found it very good. I took the animal report idea and the nonfiction
conventions from Debbie Miller and combined them into a couple of week
lesson.
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From: "btillman" <btillman@farmerstel.com>
Subject: Re: [mosaic] Dyslexia
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 07:12:01 -0400

Re: [mosaic] DyslexiaI saw Jack Fletcher at the IRA conference in =
Orlando. He is from Texas and has been doing brain research with a new =
fMRI machine that can actually show what parts of the brain are working =
while you do different things (like reading, singing, identifying =
pictures, writing, etc.)
They used this machine to do before/after brain scans of kids who =
were identified as struggling readers in K. The study was conducted in =
first grade. What was amazing was that they actually changed how these =
kids' brains worked by using systematic phonics instruction and =
intervention.
They also did scans of struggling adult readers. Their brain =
patterns were the same as the struggling children's...which led them to =
believe that kids don't "mature" or "grow out of " difficulties when =
they are young.=20

There is a large percentage of our kids who will learn no matter =
what we do. They have the background & experiences to have success. But =
for those little strugglers, there must be some systematic instruction =
to help their brains get "wired right" for reading. It would be a shame =
to have what we need to help them and not do it.=20
Cece/LC/GA
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From: "Dorothy Ridge" <dorridge@cox.net>
Subject: Re: [mosaic] Nonfiction
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 07:22:02 -0400

I have used In the Blink of an Eye with second graders during their animal
habitat study. It generating a great deal of discussion.
Dottie
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From: "Carrie Becker" <pigsrock@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [mosaic] non-fiction books
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 07:40:13 -0400
Deborah--
I forget, what grade do you teach? I teach fifth and am wondering about s=
ome of the students' reactions to Big Books. I'm sure some of them would =
think they were cool, but others might consider them quite primary. They =
sounds wonderful, though! =20
Is there a website I can look at them online?
Does anyone else use them?
Thanks!
--Carrie :)
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From: "Carrie Becker" <pigsrock@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [mosaic] 7 Keys to Comprehension
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 08:31:11 -0400

I agree. It's a really quick read and reinforces what we do in schools. =
I liked how at the end of each chapter, it gave suggestions for Preschool=
, Emergent and Advanced Readers, books, and classroom applications. It's =
a great companion to Mosaic and Strategies!
--Carrie :)
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From: "Dorothy Ridge" <dorridge@cox.net>
Subject: Re: [mosaic] Non-Fiction Matters
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 07:19:54 -0400

The 4th and 5th grade teachers at my school love the Write Time Series.
Dottie
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Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 08:56:48 -0400
From: Bethany220@aol.com
Subject: Re: [mosaic] 7 Keys to Comprehension

I just got it in the mail yesterday and I can't wait to start
it...especially after hearing all of these wonderful reviews,thank you
Bethany
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From: Abcde1142@aol.com
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 09:00:45 EDT
Subject: Re: [mosaic] non-fiction

I did an author study last year using Russell Freedman. He has written a
number of books on the old west on topics from Children in the Old West to
Buffalo Hunt. What interested me was the topics he did that wasn't
connected to the
old west such as Eleanor Roosevelt. I didn't use an entire book for the
read-a-loud, but sections that pertained to each other. I was amazed by the
boys
being interested in Eleanor Roosevelt especially when the girls should no
interest in her.

I agree that we have to do more with non-fiction because students see
reading
non-fiction as boring.
Alexa
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Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 08:16:48 -0700
From: Lori Jackson <ljackson@gwtc.net>
Subject: Re: [mosaic] non-fiction

Another reason to focus on nonfiction is the degree to which nonfiction
plays a role in our reading lives. So far this morning, I read the NY
Times online, reviewed a map for directions to the camping spot we are
heading to in the morning, read a recipe for blueberry muffins,
corresponded with several listserv members and friends via email, and
read two chapters in a professional book. When I pause to inventory my
reading life, I am overwhelmed with the amount of nonfiction reading I
do. I consider myself an avid reader--my family might call it
addict!--and I read lots of fiction as well. One starting point might
be to help children define nonfiction in broad terms. If they limit
that definition to textbooks, it is no real wonder that they dismiss it
as boring.

Lori
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From: "Andy & Shelly Kennedy" <pristine@aclass.com>
Subject: [mosaic] big books and other bizarre things with fifth graders
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 09:12:29 -0500

Hi Carrie and others, =20
I have found that anything (like big books, community circle, =
picture books etc.) that we approach with fifth graders might seem odd =
to them at first. But if we approach it with excitement and talk about =
it with them, I find over time they are begging me for those things. I =
just talk about the elephant in the room - "I know you probably think it =
seems odd to sit in the floor in a circle for community circle but just =
give me a chance and I think you'll come to love community circle." Sure =
enough over time, they love it!

Here is another thing we do in my classroom - back massages during read =
aloud. I know some of you are dying out there! :) WE set up a procedure =
- talk about it thoroughly - model an appropriate shoulder massage =
sitting up in a row - and do it. THEY LOVE IT! Students don't have to =
at all! I find the boys and girls form separate lines, but they have a =
little routine - tap the shoulder and that person moves to the end of =
the line. It's funny to watch! Occasionally people lose the privilege =
but not too often! My principal even jumped in one day and sat down =
with the kids. :) At first he looked at me like I was nuts, then a =
student invited him down, and now he's a believer!!! :) I just go with =
the idea of loosening those tense muscles - the power of touch, etc. =
It's all above board and I even usually get a shoulder massage. Talk =
about a de-stresser. TRY IT!!!
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Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 10:25:36 -0400
From: Bethany220@aol.com
Subject: Re: [mosaic] non-fiction

That was so well put! We need to model the readerly life along with our
writerly life. Speaking of the New York Times, there was an interesting
article last week on Dyslexia research at Yale. Bethany
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Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 11:32:21 -0400
From: Karen B <kbaird@optonline.net>
Subject: [mosaic] re: digest

Hi All,
I am new to the list & find the info. intriguing....but wondering if
there is a digest version...can anyone pls. advise how to get on the digest
version?
thanks,
karen
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From: "Kelley Kennedy" <kelleyken@msn.com>
Subject: [mosaic] Elvis the REader
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 11:03:35 -0500

I know someone need this. Here's the original message:

My husband (also a MOT teacher) just showed me this paragraph from the =
book
he is currently reading entitled: Careless Love: The Unmaking of Elvis
Presley by Peter Guralnick.

"[He] (Elvis) was requesting a new book almost every other day....It was
never enough for him to simply read a book; he had to absorb it, think =
about
it, question it, link its thoughts and ideas with all he had read before =
and
things he had heard people say. Elvis dog-eared pages, highlighted
passages, and jotted notes and questions on the endpapers and throughout =
the
margins. For Elvis, reading wasn't a passive activity; each book =
promised a
new adventure, a new way of viewing things." p.178

Just another example of a real life reader.

Ginger
moderator
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Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 12:06:46 -0700
Subject: Re: [mosaic] Dyslexia
From: Diane M Shadwick <dshadwick@juno.com>

Joan:

Thank you for sharing your information about Overcoming Dyslexia by
Sally Shawyitz.

My youngest son is dyslexic. Dyslexics don't "grow out" of dyslexia,
they learn to compensate. He is currently attending a community college
and is doing very well with his courses. He does struggle with his
spelling.

It is because of him that I have gone on to get my teaching degree and
M.Ed. in Reading and Literacy (just finished last week). (Teaching is my
'second career' after raising my two sons and having a desire to continue
to work at something I enjoy since my husband is disabled.) My research
paper (both years) was on dyslexia. I found out there are many
misconceptions among teachers and this last year I worked with a 4th
grader on spelling (a single case study), I am still hoping for my own
classroom. I am working on learning everything I can to help young
students to learn to read and write, so that hopefully they won't fall
through the cracks.

Dee
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From: DnnllySs@aol.com
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 15:32:06 EDT
Subject: Re: [mosaic] Elvis the REader

Good Morning
I am so glad you re-posted this
I believe my 11yrs old !!!! reads our posts on MOT
She asked me about Elvis' reading during dinner last evening
so
We are reaching into the future
Im printing this out so we can read and share it's entirety tonight
Thanks so much :)
Have a Breezeey Summer's Day
Susan Donnelly
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From: Micteachme@aol.com
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 16:18:29 EDT
Subject: Re: [mosaic] Non-Fiction Matters

I have seen the Write Time for Kids. I liked what I saw. Our intermediate
coach purchased it. I will look more closely at it and let you know. For
Illinois teachers it addresses the types of writing the kids need to be able
to do
with some pretty good short pieces.

Becky/IL/ Literacy Coach
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Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 13:18:17 -0700
From: Katharine Klevinskas <katha@syix.com>
Subject: Re: [mosaic] Dyslexia

Hi Dee,

I wish I had time and energy to do enough research on my own to learn
how to better teach kids with the various forms of dyslexia. As well
as all the other needs a room full of kids has.

I wish my district offered classes -- I don't even really know which
books I should buy to read.

That's a main reason I spend hours on the web reading posts at
education sites and mailring like this. There is so much to learn,
so much I don't know. And during the school year I am swamped and
overwhelmed just by the day to day activities -- summer is for
learning.

Anyway... congratulations on your degree and masters. That is very
exciting! Congratulations on raising your children well. I hope you
stay with the mosaic ring and share tons of the information you have
learned with us.

Katharine/1st/N.California
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From: Micteachme@aol.com
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 16:23:32 EDT
Subject: Re: [mosaic] non-fiction books

i HAVE READ PIECES OF Tony's Book It's a Fact. It is very readable. If you
liked him in person you will recall some of the stories. I think it has
some
real value. (I guess I need to go pull it out.

Becky/IL/Lit Coach
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From: deborah a devine <debthereb@lightfirst.com>
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 15:59:50 -0500
Subject: [mosaic] non-fiction use of Big Books

(A reply especially to Carrie)

I have taught both 4th and 3rd Grade. The Mondo Book on Beavers has so
many features of non-fiction that I don't believe that students see it
as a primary Big Book...but as a learning tool that everyone can see.
I don't see a problem with Big Books and 5th Graders. I believe that
something that helps them see the large books as a teaching tool is
that I explictly state "what my purpose is for the lesson." For
example, "Today we are going to be looking at a cross section diagram
of the beaver's lodge. You will find this type of diagram in non-
fiction books and in your Social Studies and Science textbooks."
The next day we drew our own cross section diagrams of the inside of
an apple that had been cut in half...then we ate them.
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Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 16:17:01 -0700
From: Lori Jackson <ljackson@gwtc.net>
Subject: Re: [mosaic] non-fiction use of Big Books

My son is in a school which services only fourth and fifth graders. Rather
than an
extension of primary, it seems to be more of a pre-step to middle school.
It fails
to do either well. I really do believe that 4th and 5th grade kids are
still kids
and that as a society, we are somewhat responsible for growing them up too
fast. I
think of a fifth grade teacher who sponsors dances throughout the year,
including
"King and Queen" sorts of things and then wonders at the boy/girl conflicts
and the
race to early sexuality. Umm... I think that by introducing this book to
older
students the way you describe you are giving them permission to be little
kids and
way to save face when it isn't quite cool to do so. Kind of like taking a
kid to a
Disney movie when you would love to have seen it anyway...

Lori
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From: deborah a devine <debthereb@lightfirst.com>
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 18:13:03 -0500
Subject: [mosaic] Beavers and onward to the platypus

After the beaver book, I use another set of Mondo books about the
platypus. This is not a big book, as I used a set of 8 small books that
I had available. Why is that significant? CONNECTIONS! No one knows
anything about the platypus, including me originally. The platypus is
somewhat similar to the beaver, yet quite different. This jolly little
creature can be understood because you use your prior knowledge of the
beaver to understand the platypus. As we talked about this in my class
last year, several students as last could see what we mean when you
teach that you can learn sometime new to you by connecting to what you
already know.
I also made some transparencies of some of the diagrams, so we could
enjoy them as a whole class.
Deborah Devine
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From: cllc@comcast.net
Subject: Re: [mosaic] Dyslexia
Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2003 03:15:52 +0000

I read this article on dyslexia as well. I was interested in the brain
imaging
that shows that dyslexics only activate the frontal area that uses context,
but
do not activate areas in the back of the brain that facilitate visual word
recognition and auditory sounds within words.

I have seen this struggle in action as I have prompted readers who just
guess at
words, sometimes using the first letter of the word. When their attention
is
directed to letters or clusters of letters that conflict with the miscue
word
they called, they can, with deliberation, correct the miscue. But they go
on,
time after time, making similar errors , or even the very same error in the
next
line of text. Reading, for them, is very labor-intensive and it does seem
obvious that they are not integrating the cueing systems with any
automaticity.
I'm sure their brain imaging would confirm what I'm seeing in the
classroom.

We do provide Title I or RSP assistance to these students in gaining word
recognition and word attack skills. However, it is usually too little too
late.

I'm not sure brain stimulation or phonemic awareness activities or phonics
programs are the complete answer. These students are often sentenced to a
school career of remediation in phonics/skills instruction. Special
education
programs in general are prime examples of these skill/drill non-success
stories.
Reading Recovery works successfully with the lowest 1st graders by
encouraging
the integration of all the cueing systems, building on what the student
knows,
not what he doesn't know.

I guess what I'm musing about is a suspicion about "hard science" diagnosing
readers as deficient or different-brained. A similar over-simplification
of
eye movement studies in a laboratory, not authentic reading situations, is
what
got us into this direct instruction/systematic phonics tornado we're in
right
now.

Keene has studied extensive research from many fields, including
linguistics,
cognitive psychology, reading, speech pathology, etc. and has based the
strategy-instruction approach on a broad range of findings that look at how
successful readers/learners read/learn. Teaching students to take on the
strategies and habits of successful readers is a paradigm that builds
students' cognitive abilities, rather than focusing on a deficiency model.

I am interested in what neurologists and cognitive scientists are
discovering
through brain studies, but it can not usually be applied directly to
classroom
instruction. Qualitative studies done IN schools must also be considered.

I understood the term dyslexic meant "one who can't read" for whatever
reason.
Many of us have cringed when hearing parents or news media toss this
"diagnosis"
around freely over the last decade because it is so general, it is hard to
know
what is meant by it. Parents who watched their 5-year-old write a backwards
"b"
became worried their child was dyslexic.

At this point, I realize some students are struggling readers in spite of
good
teaching and I don't always know why --or when, or if, they might become
fluentn readers. But I do know that no student should be a struggling reader
because of poor teaching and that still happens!
Carol/2/CA
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From: JATShaw@aol.com
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2003 01:39:05 EDT
Subject: Re: [mosaic] Dyslexia

In a message dated 7/31/2003 8:29:13 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
cllc@comcast.net writes:


> I have seen this struggle in action as I have prompted readers who just
> guess at
> words, sometimes using the first letter of the word

And this seems to be the very strategy that adult struggling readers have
become stuck on; they have totally lost sight of the idea that a word should
make
sense in the context of the sentence, indeed that they should engage with
the
text at all. Working from their strengths and their interests also seems
key; many come to us with much bitterness and feelings of inadequacy...many
were
in school when learning disabilities weren't well understood.

Personally, I don't think there is AN answer because each individual's needs
are so unique. As teachers we have to have a great big bag of tricks,
filled
with different options. And if we don't have access to specialists for one
reason or another, it's critical to be well versed in STW and MOT and
anything
else we think might help make the difference. One text I especially like in
addition to the many mentioned in these discussions is Multisensory Teaching
of
Basic Language Skills by Judith Birsh. We also use the "sound tapping" that
is part of the Wilson method...and for some reason that helps unlock the
mysteries of decoding for our adults. Once they connect spoken words with
written
sounds, everything seems to fall into place.

Many of our struggling adults come to us because they want to be able to
help
their kids. (The statistics are pretty scary concerning intergenerational
literacy problems.) It's hard to believe there are folks out there who
can't
read a recipe, map, or medicine label let alone a book to their child.
That's
why I am so very thrilled with the level of commitment in the participants
of
this LISTSERV. It gives me hope, and that's a very good thing. You folks
aren't going to let this happen, and this is GREAT. We would love to see
this
issue disappear!
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From: Creecher12@aol.com
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2003 07:05:01 EDT
Subject: Re: [mosaic] Dyslexia

Carol,
This is a very thoughtful reflection. I agree that when students are
struggling most assistance is given in phonics. And if that doesn't work,
they
give them more phonics.
Dr. Stephen Strauss has a book coming out in October titled, Silent E Speaks
Out. In it he talks about how the phonics rules aren't really rules at all,
and really confuse children. He is a linguist and a neurologist. He also
talks
about brain scans and that you can't change a person's brain. What they do
is
use flash cards while readers are getting neuro-imaged. They never do these
tests on children actually reading. There is so much we don't know about the
reading process and I worry about the kinds of statements Shaywitz is saying
that
will send thousands of parents to the doctor with their children thinking
they have something wrong with them and giving that message to their child.
I'm not sure how I feel about the statement about "poor instruction."
I worry with all the teacher bashing going on, that the last thing we need
to
do is bash each other. We all have those teachers in our building that we
think aren't doing their job the way we would, but I think we should be
supportive
and helpful rather than bash one another.

Nancy Creech
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Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2003 06:40:46 -0700
From: Lori Jackson <ljackson@gwtc.net>
Subject: Re: [mosaic] Dyslexia

Carol,

You spoke beautifully to my concerns with the article. A friend and expert
in the
field of special education on another list felt this author tended to over
generalize
the term dyslexia to include most learning disabilities. I, too, see my
special needs
students sentenced to the kind of drill and kill exercise stories.

As the mother of a child with severe cognitive delays, I struggled for years
with the
dogmatic determination to limit his IEP reading goals to 'X' monthes growth
in
reading. It seemed to me it was time to celebrate his ability to read at a
second
grade level (where he seems to have sort of topped out) and concentrate on
helping
using that knowledge functionally. I felt so blessed to meet up with an
incredible
special ed teacher who helped me get his goals rewritten so that they are
functional..

Now I see him becoming functionally literate in ways that will allow him to
live in a
supported situation with a sense of real independence. I want to cry tears
of joy
everytime my son proudly serves up a meal to the family he has prepared
himself and I
am ready to dance on the ceiling because he can read medication directions
and safely
self-medicate. I think we sometimes do children a disservice with our
narrow,
text-o-centric (my new word) approach to instruction. It is hard to accept
that some
children will not enter every door to literacy. Or that they all will
access these
doors with prescisely the same key.

Lori

Would you mind if I shared your response with others?
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Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2003 05:05:48 -0700
Subject: Re: [mosaic] Dyslexia
From: Diane M Shadwick <dshadwick@juno.com>

Dyslexia "to the clinical psychologist or neurologist, means a condition
reflective of 'minimal brain damage' or 'minimal brain dysfunction,' a
condition also called word blindness.

To the educator, it implies a specific reading disability exhibited by a
child with normal or above-normal intelligence and normal vision and
hearing who receives the same instruction as other children.

Having dyslexia does not mean that the person is not intelligent; on the
contrary there are many dyslexic people who are gifted in such areas as
art (my son is one of these -- he does quite a few mediums and is very
good in all of them -- it's his gifting), computer science, design,
drama, electronics, math, mechanics, music, physics, sales, and sports.

The Greek root "dys" means trouble and "lexia" means word, so dyslexia
literally means trouble with words. The history of dyslexia dates back
into the late 1800's when two English physicians, Kerr and Morgan
recognized dyslexia as a learning disability, called 'word blindness.'
This launched the confusing and erratic history of at least 35
definitions for this disorder as well as a lengthy list of descriptive
diagnoses recorded in the literature.

In 1925 Orton planned to conduct research in cerebral physiology for his
patients who had trouble learning to read, but he was unable to due to
lack of funding. He did present a paper on word blindness to the 51st
annual meeting of the American Neurological Association in Washington
D.C. This paper presented the theory that reading disorders were due to
a lack of dominance in one hemisphere of the brain. Orton also refuted
the notion that children with reading disabilities had a defect in their
intelligence and thereby should be classified as disabled rather than
defective.

In 1975 Galaburda validated Orton's original theory, "the localized
section of the brain that directs all aspects of reading skill is
different in dyslexics. The anomaly or altered development exists in the
formation of the cortex on the left side of the brain and is considered a
significant cause of dyslexia."

On October 1994, Dr. William Kimberling and Dr. Shelly smith "traced a
genetic basis for dyslexia to a small region in chromosome 6." (Hence
the connection with dyslexia running through generations of families.)
This research validates the supposition in the last 75 years that
dyslexia is a real biological disorder with a genetic component.

Public Law 94-142 (1972) guarantees handicap children the right to a
better education and the right to receive services to meet their special
needs. Section 504 of the Rehabilitation act of 1973 was amended in 1975
to be consistent with PL 94-142.

The Individuals with Disabilities Education Act (IDEA) of 1990 is a
federally funded regulation that appropriates money to states for special
services for the special needs of a disabled student. This regulation
helped schools fund their floundering mandated programs. In 1990 the
Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA) was designed to protect the civil
rights of individuals with disabilities. Why am I telling you this?
Because approximately 15% of the United States population is affected by
learning disabilities. Of this 15% population, approximately 80-85% has
some difficulty in language or reading. (IDA, 2000).

Dyslexic students have trouble both in reading and spelling since reading
and spelling are inversely related through the student’s ability to use
phonological coding. (Oakland, Black, & Stanford, 1998). Reading moves
from letter symbols to phonological representations and spelling is the
reverse, where the student moves from phonological representations to the
letter symbol. (Oakland, et al., 1998). The root cause is a lack of
phonemic awareness which makes it difficult for the dyslexic student to
learn the relationship “between letters and the sounds they represent in
words, as well as applying those letter/sound correspondences to help
them ‘sound out’ unknown words.” (Reilly, 2001). Additionally, many of
the studies have shown that Kindergarten students who have poor phonemic
skills are more likely to “experience difficulties acquiring the early
word reading skills that provide the foundation for growth of reading
ability throughout elementary school.” (Reilly, 2001).

So this brings us to the question, "What can we as regular classroom
teachers do to help these students?" Well, I've attached to this e-mail
a handout I've created while I was working on two different action
research papers for my M.Ed. program. I hope this will help. If you
want an attachment of my action research paper(s), I'd gladly share
either both or one of them. During my core year I surveyed teachers in
one school in the district I substitute teach in and last year's research
was a single case study, I worked with a 4th grade student on using
several interventions that I thought would be easy to implement within a
regular classroom.

Sorry I'm so long about this, but this is my "soap box," so I'll get down
off of it now!

Dee
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Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2003 05:20:06 -0700
Subject: Re: [mosaic] Dyslexia
From: Diane M Shadwick <dshadwick@juno.com>
Reply-To: mosaic@u46teachers.org

Thank you for sharing the Time Magazine article. It touches on a few
points I didn't. I'm also attaching the interview I completed with my
son so that you can see first hand how I dyslexic student feels.

Dee
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From: Creecher12@aol.com
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2003 08:54:57 EDT
Subject: Re: [mosaic] Dyslexia

In a message dated 8/1/03 8:23:02 AM Eastern Daylight Time,=20
dshadwick@juno.com writes:

> The root cause is a lack of phonemic awareness which makes it difficult
for
> the dyslexic student to learn the relationship between letters and
the sounds they represent in words, as well as applying those letter/sound
> correspondences to help them sound out unknown words.


Dee,
Could you point me to the research on this? Everything I have seen on

this is correlational. Is there research that shows reverse causality?

Nancy Creech
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From: "Loyd or Gayla King" <lgking@netdot.com>
Subject: [mosaic] Beginning of year...any thoughts, any thoughts...
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2003 09:22:07 -0500

Hey guys,
I am sending this email to several of my chatboards, so you may see it =
more than once...my apologies.

Our first day of in-service in August 11, and our students will start =
August 17...just right around the corner...and I can't believe the =
summer is over...

Any way, I have been trying to get "jazzed" about it all, and have =
started to think about what we will do that first week or two. I thought =
I might ask you-all..."what are you doing the first weeks of school." =
Our theme will be building community.

Many thanks,
gayla in texas/2nd
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From: "Loyd or Gayla King" <lgking@netdot.com>
Subject: Re: [mosaic] Dyslexia
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2003 09:42:05 -0500

In our school district, a child cannot be tested for dyslexia until an =
intelligience test is given. They have to show high intelligience before =
they will be tested for dyslexia. Something about this just doesn't seem =
right to me. Do ya'll have any thoughts on this?
gayla in texas/2nd
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From: "Umm Muadth" <umumuadth@awtechnologies.com>
Subject: [mosaic] The third element of fluency: prosody
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2003 09:57:03 -0400

Hi all,

I wanted to give this quick 'tip' for helping readers with prosody (Fast and
accurate decoding are two elements of fluent reading. A third is prosody, or
reading with appropriate rhythm, intonation, and expression (National
Reading Panel (NRP), 2000b, p. 3-1). Books on tape are a wonderful way to
help children learn this skill. Listening to books on tape can double
children's experience with the spoken word increasing their exposure to it.
Struggling readers need more explicit experience with all aspects of the
reading process. Books on tape is one way that children can get the
experience.

FYI, I didn't like Sally Shaywitz's book Overcoming Dyslexia. Her flat out
proposal that parents are not the ones to teach their children was quite a
put off and her 'program' was lacking. I prefered the book 'Your Child can
be a Greater Reader:Improving Skills and Developing a Lifetime Love of
Books' by Ricki Linksman. She empowered parents and gave a wonderful
straight forward breakdown of the skills needed in reading, save
syllibication which would have been helpful. She also discussed learning
styles which I think is very important.

Melissa
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From: Soswes@aol.com
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2003 11:21:10 EDT
Subject: Re: [mosaic] Beginning of year...any thoughts, any thoughts...

I did this last year and it worked well...so I'm doing it again. Credit
goes
to Harvey Daniels (I believe) but, I heard about it at Walloon University
last summer. It's called a "ME" box.

This is a simplified version, as I teach 1st grade: The teacher models the
first day. You decorate a box with things that are important to you:
family,
pets, books, writing, etc. Then, on the inside, you have have momento's of
those things. You pull them out one at a time and talk about them. Thus,
introducing yourself to the class. The kids then, with their families do
the same
thing. They decorate a box with things that are important to them. They
can
draw, paint, use the computer, whatever they want. Then on the inside, they
include their momento's. They write on index cards what they want to say
about
the momento. They bring it to class, and talk about them, using their
notes.
In first grade, I usually have to read the card for them...but not always.
They still are able to talk about it, which is what is important...lots of
conversation. You can learn a lot about the child, the class can learn a
lot,
and it helps build community. The older grades can do a lot more with
this...but it extends into writing for obvious reasons.

Hope this helps.

Sandi
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From: "TJ" <bishjt@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [mosaic] Beginning of year...any thoughts, any thoughts...
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2003 12:05:37 -0400

A fun activity to do at the beginning of school is to use Shel =
Silverstein's poem What's in the Sack? page 111 of Where the Sidewalk =
Ends . I had a sack with things about me and my family and we recited =
the poem then I shared what I had in the sack. The students were =
assigned days to bring in a sack with things about them. Each day we =
recited the poem and had 3-4 students share what they had in the sack. =
By the time we finished, the entire class could recite the poem.

Another activity is to have the students make a flower about themselves. =
The center of the flower is a round 3-4 inch circle where they glue =
their picture. I then made large flower pedals--6-8 and wrote questions =
or sentence stems on each pedal. The students answered the questions =
and glued them onto the circle. We hung these in the hall and they were =
great for open house. You can dress this up by adding a flower pot on =
which the students can draw pictures about themselves.

Some of the questions were:
1. What do you like to do on Saturday?
2. What is your favorite book?
3. Who is your favorite author?
4. Who reads to you at home?
5. Tell something you do very well.
6. What kind of books do you like to read?
7. Do you like to read alone or in a group?

As you can see the list can go on and on. I used this activity with =
second graders.
These two activities come from Constance Weaver's book---
Reading Process and Practice

Jenny
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From: CoyoteWalk@aol.com
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2003 12:09:55 EDT
Subject: Re: [mosaic] Elvis the REader

In a message dated 7/31/03 9:11:21 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
kelleyken@msn.com writes:


> Elvis dog-eared pages, highlighted
> passages, and jotted notes and questions on the endpapers and throughout
the
> margins. For Elvis, reading wasn't a passive activity; each book promised
a
> new adventure, a new way of viewing things." p.178

Wow, do I love that information. I am almost embarrassed about the
condition
of the books I read. Unfortunately, I don't get throught that many because
I
take the process very slowly and don't seem to chose sitting down to read as
often as I might. The pages I do read definitely look read. Comments,
underlines, dog ears, etc. I have heard people say that they feel that it
is
sac-religious to mark in books.
I hope those people don't come to my house. I do borrow books from
libraries, but I also do control myself with their books. Thanks for
sharing that
information. Barbara
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From: CoyoteWalk@aol.com
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2003 12:21:06 EDT
Subject: [mosaic] Analogies and private eye

Hi all, I just wanted to let you know that I received my copy of Private
Eye
and jewelers loupes yesterday. I can't wait to use them myself and then
introduce them to my students. Thanks for the recommendation.
Barbara
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From: "Joe & Karla McAdam" <jlmcadam3@ameritech.net>
Subject: Re: [mosaic] Analogies and private eye
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2003 11:50:05 -0500
Reply-To: mosaic@u46teachers.org
Barbara,

Did you purchase the loupes from Private Eye, or did you find a good deal
elsewhere?

~Karla
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From: "Kelley Kennedy" <kelleyken@msn.com>
Subject: [mosaic]
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2003 12:05:36 -0500

Sorry for cross-posting this to my two lists. I really need some help! =

I'm trying to think of stories to help kids learn hard to spell words. =
Below is what I've come up with (except for they and the being best =
friends. Got this from 4 blocks list :). I'm having a problem with the =
word "who." I have so many students mix up the letters in "who," so I =
wanted a story or mnemonic device to help kids remember the correct =
letter order for this word. At the end of this e-mail are some possible =
ideas I have, but it's just not coming together. Maybe some of you =
better storytellers out there can help me out! Thanks!

Kelley/2/IN

They used to be "a's" best friend. A was mean to They, so They became =
best friend's with The.

Very came along one day because A was mean to him too. They and The =
told Very that he could have an E in his name and be their friend.

By and By were identical twins. By was always the one who told people =
who their story was by, and the one who told people that something was =
by something. The other twin, By, was the one who told people to buy =
something. They were tired of always being mixed up, so By went to buy =
a U. When he bought the U, he became Buy. Now everyone knows that Buy =
helps us buy things because he's the one who bought a U.

Many is a MAN who loves lots of things. He has many dogs, many shoes, =
many cars, many apple, etc.

Who Will Hide Oatmeal?

Who Helps Owls?

Who Hides Owls?

W___ Horned Owls


Willie the Owl hides oatmeal. He's an owl because he says "who" "who."
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From: Abcde1142@aol.com
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2003 13:08:24 EDT
Subject: Re: [mosaic] Dyslexia

Dee,
I have received material about dyslexia which wasn't as consise as
your handout. If you have any other material, I would like to have it as
this is
clearer than anything else I have read.
Thank you for sharing.
Alexa
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From: "lois driggers" <loiso@dbtech.net>
Subject: Re: [mosaic] Beginning of year...any thoughts, any thoughts...
Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2003 19:33:28 -0700

While we are on this thread--I saw something this summer at a workshop =
that "I had to have". =20
It's a storage binder for books to hang on the wall or children's work. =
I will try to explain it.
Get a box of gallon sized Ziplocks (20 to a pack). Lie each of the =
baggies out in rows of 4 colums of 5 (or vice versa) to form a large =
rectangle. Using red (or other color) Duck tape, tape the bags together, =
form a border around all the edges. To finish it off, use the velcro =
loops at the top to hang.
Lois
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From: Creecher12@aol.com
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2003 14:57:37 EDT
Subject: Re: [mosaic] Dyslexia

In a message dated 8/1/03 10:40:40 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
lgking@netdot.com writes:

> In our school district, a child cannot be tested for dyslexia until an
> intelligience test is given. They have to show high intelligience before
they
> will be tested for dyslexia. Something about this just doesn't seem right
to me.
> Do ya'll have any thoughts on this?

Gayla,
If it is determined that the child has dyslexia, how does the teaching
change
and what does the instruction look like?

Nancy Creech
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From: "Joe & Karla McAdam" <jlmcadam3@ameritech.net>
Subject: [mosaic] K2K/Response Assessment
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2003 15:39:13 -0500

Fellow MOTers,

I would like to pose some questions to the group. In chapter three, =
page 60-63, Cole talks about the four-finger assessment rubric. Has =
anyone created an assessment such as this and if so, is it like/unlike =
the example shown?

Cole strongly states that the students should coauthor the rubric. I =
would agree, as I have noted tremendous results when students have =
ownership in the process. What are your thoughts on this?

I often struggle with rubrics because I am never sure how to fairly =
convert them into letter grades...or do you? Does this tool become an =
assessment whose purpose is strictly reflective? If so, is there any =
form of assessment given to literature conversations? Let me know what =
you do.

I appreciate the input that is received on this listserv. It is a place =
where one can think out loud and someone will respond. What more can =
you ask for?

~Karla
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From: "Loyd or Gayla King" <lgking@netdot.com>
Subject: Re: [mosaic] Dyslexia
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2003 16:44:20 -0500

The only thing I know for sure that happens is a Title teacher, who was =
trained at Scott and White (here in Texas) does some sort of pull out =
program for them. I think they are also using a new computer program =
with these students.

We only have about 3 children identified in our school, and I think =
there are probably several more not identified. I don't think we =
"attack" it as aggressively as we should. It seems to me, that if a =
child is dyslexic, everyone (teacher, special teachers, and parents) are =
going to have to work really hard, and really together...

As a classroom teacher, I would love to know exactly what I can do in =
the classroom to help these children.=20

gayla in texas/2nd
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From: "Carrie Becker" <pigsrock@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [mosaic] Beginning of year...any thoughts, any thoughts...
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2003 17:50:08 -0400

I have used the "Me Box" to help the students get to know each other bett=
er and share some things about themselves, but now I've borrowed and modi=
fied "Artifact Presentations" from a wonderful graduate reading professor=
who had us do one of these for each class we had with him. These are the=
"artifacts" guidelines I give them.
Bring in these artifacts:
A favorite book (It can be one that you are reading or that yo=
u have read.)
Two UNBREAKABLE things that represent a part of who you are or=
what you value (If you cannot bring in the actual item or person, you ca=
n always bring in pictures.)
One piece of your own writing (It can be anything you=E2=80=99=
ve written ie. story, poem, email, letter, etc. If you don=E2=80=99t have=
a piece of writing you need to write something for homework before you p=
resentation.)
Picture of your family (If you don=E2=80=99t have one of every=
one, you can bring in a few different pictures. Pets may be included if y=
ou consider them family!)
Depending on your subject area/focus, you could tailor this to your needs=
. If anyone is interested in the description sheet with a simple rubric t=
hat I give the students when I assign this presentation. It's been great!=
:)
--Carrie :)
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From: ArdieCole@aol.com
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2003 18:25:45 EDT
Subject: [mosaic] K2K response

Dear Teachers,

My life has been exceedingly crazy what with moving cross country (still not
unpacked), speaking engagements and a book that is supposed to be finished
(Yikes!!) in the very near future. However, I have been saving your emails
marked
K2K so that I might try to address some of your questions.

The most recent question involved that first rubric in the book: << Does
this
tool become an assessment whose purpose is strictly reflective? >> The
answer
to this question is: Yes, it is merely a way to make the process a little
more concrete---a way to develop metacognition---a way to have responders
stand
outside themselves and consider the process reflectively. You hit the nail
on
the head!

In regard to conversation rubrics in general, I, myself, don't like to use
them for "school purposes" UNTIL the kids are fairly expert in the
conversation
process. Even adults are intimidated when, at a novice stage, they are
formally "tested." Therefore, once kids get good at small-group K2Ks, I'll
ask the
them if they think they are ready for a serious rubric. (I would equate
their
level of performance with "ready to be video taped." There's more on this
and
rubrics later in the book.

I want to now address a few questions related to middle school. K2K was
steeped in elementary school, Grades K-5. I have used the protocol with
middle
schoolers, and even HS, when I was Teacher on Special Assignment for two
years. I
can therefore understand some of the comments related to time restrictions.
However, it did not take the kids all year to learn the protocol (maybe a
month), and once they learned it, the teachers used it in a variety of ways.
The
read-aloud is an important vehicle because it eliminates the reading ability
variable AND it gives everyone access to similar grist for discussion.
Obviously,
kids' backgrounds differ (I've implemented this in inner-city Buffalo and in
the affluent suburbs, as well as middle-America Lockport), but diversity
adds
spice to the conversations. Furthermore, kids who do not understand a piece
that the teacher reads will certainly not understand it, if they must read
it
independently. Listening comprehension is usually dubbed to be about two (or
more) grade levels above reading comprehension. We do them a favor when WE
do the
reading; then, they can concentrate on the process---for it is process we
are
learning here.

Although most elementary teachers read something aloud to their students
every day, once this process is learned, it can be used after a listening,
reading
or viewing (video, presentation, etc.) experience. The book teaches how to
grow kids into autonomous, small- group, topic-centered conversations. This
means that once kids move through the steps, they will be able to transact
interdependently WITHOUT THE TEACHER'S PRESENCE in their group. I have been
doing
this with classes since the late 80s. It works if you follow the protocol.
Honest.

In regard to the manner in which the book unfolds: After chapter 3 most
students have the nuts and bolts of it. Chapters 4 and 5 get into the
nitty-gritty
aspects of connections (which Mosaic teachers know about), assessment, and
critical analysis of text, which is probably the most difficult aspect. I
find
that even most adults are critical of what they read or view on TV. I've had
graduate students tell me that because the reports from the gov't oversight
committees are in print, they assumed they were all grounded in "truth."
This is
one of the most important aspects of teaching reading, as far as I'm
concerned,
that is, reading for analytical, critical and evaluative response. My
favorite
approach to this involves authentic text: book reviews (last chapter of
book). Chinaberry allowed me to use some of their examples. If you go to
www.chinaberry.com, you can find a ton of them. But another reason I love
book reviews,
is because by using them you are also enticing kids to read the books
reviewed---and you are presenting a model for writing book reviews. Probably
the final
chapter of the book leans more toward upper el. and middle school.

It is difficult to write a book that accommodates every level. My Stenhouse
book, Better Answers:Written Performance that Looks Good and Sounds Smart
grew
out of my work with third, fourth, fifth and eighth graders who were
struggling to compose brief and extended written responses for the NYS
assessments.
That book is therefore focused on Grades 3-8. However, first and second
grade
teachers have told me that they use it, too. And a college prof, who teaches
preservice teachers struggling with English, said she has them follow the
guidelines in BA to construct their written applications and essays. So go
figure. I
guess, if the shoe fits we just put it on---wherever we are.

I'm pleased to see so many are putting on the K2K shoes. I thank you for
your
kind responses and your reflections, and wish you the best of luck (and fun)
in the upcoming school year.

>>>From this point I am going to ask Ginger to remove my name from the email
list, although I will surely miss your insightful chats about so many of
teachi
ng's important facets. What a group you are! I ask that if you do have any
further questions (especially in the fall when you implement), please send
them to
me personally at this email address, and I will eventually get back to you.
I
do enjoy our written conversations---God knows, I always enjoy talking about
teaching! Don't we all!

Thanks again,
Ardie
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From: cllc@comcast.net
Subject: Re: [mosaic] Dyslexia
Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2003 23:35:51 +0000

I don't mean to bash teachers; I feel we are all somewhere on the learning
curve. I just hate to see students assessed as below-grade level,
deficient,
struggling, learning disabled, or any other terms of inadequacies when often
the
testing measures gaps in our instructional programs more than inherent
learning
deficits on the part of the student. I have been on our School Study Team
for
years and although I hate to admit it, I see this as a challenge our
profession
needs to stand up to.
/carol/2/CA
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From: "Joe & Karla McAdam" <jlmcadam3@ameritech.net>
Subject: Re: [mosaic] K2K response/Ardie
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2003 18:58:15 -0500

Ardie,

I truly appreciate (and feel I speak for others as well) your input on our
K2K discussions. What a treat it has been for us. I am in total agreement
with your thoughts on reading aloud vs. independent reading when the
objective is to concentrate on the process. I teach 6th grade, in an
elementary building, and most would think 11-12 year olds to be beyond
picture books and read alouds. Nothing could be further from the truth! My
students love it when I read picture books for reading strategy work,
illustration viewing and analysis for art, and author's craft/writing styles
(to name a few). When I read novels aloud, they hang on my every word and
beg me not to stop. It is a wonderful experience!

Ardith said:
"This is one of the most important aspects of teaching reading, as far as
I'm concerned, that is, reading for analytical, critical and evaluative
response. "

One of my goals in reading is to make the students critical readers.
Countless times students have claimed something to be "the truth," just
because it was stated on TV, radio, or in print. Or, just because "so and
so" said it. They need to be taught to analyze the information and
determine whether it can be substantiated with evidence. Critical thinkers
read critically.

Thank you for the link to Chinaberry. I am not familiar with it and will
enjoy checking it out. When I order books for my classroom library, I
always give the students a book review before I shelf each book. In fact,
typically the books do not make it to the shelf as the students try to be
the first to get their hands on it following the review. Often we have a
waiting list for newly received books. This is most rewarding.

Thanks again Ardie!!!!

~Karla
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From: "Debbie Lacy" <dklacy@usmo.com>
Subject: [mosaic] beginning of school
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2003 22:04:37 -0500

I concentrate on names with my first graders, we play name games, word =
work them, add them to the word wall. The most rewarding part for me is =
when I ask each parent to write me the story of the naming of their =
child--how it was chosen, if they are named after someone, was there an =
"alternative" name that wasn't chosen and why that name reflects the =
specialness of their child, I ask them to send the story back with a =
baby picture ( I share the story of my naming as well and a baby =
picture). I read them as they bring them back and the kids just glow! =
Then I photocopy the pictures, type up the stories and it becomes a =
classbook--I also make enough copies to send home--a good way to =
introduce the other kids to the parents---and it reminds me that each =
little person is someone's 'baby' that I need to take good care of!

Debbie
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Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2003 20:12:29 -0700
Subject: Re: [mosaic] Dyslexia
From: Diane M Shadwick <dshadwick@juno.com>

Nancy:
Here is the article under my reference section. I'm going to a family
reunion (just packing now) early in the morning to Seattle (from
Vancouver, WA -- a 3 hr. trip), so I am not able to find the actual
article, but I will certainly do that for you on Tuesday after I'm back.
(My den's a mess, which I'm trying to organize so I've misplaced my file
on the actual articles.
Reilly, R. (2001). Dyslexia: Some background, some technology tools.
Multimedia Schools, 8(6), 70-72. Retrieved January 31, 2002 from
ProQuest Education Complete database.
Hope this helps:-)

Dee
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Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2003 20:29:39 -0700
Subject: Re: [mosaic] Dyslexia
From: Diane M Shadwick <dshadwick@juno.com>

This is why I worked on a single case study as I tried to find a way that
we regular classroom teachers could incorporate these strategies no
matter what grade level (so it's non-threatening to the struggling
student) and be very multisensory.

Results of the first intervention (I used Cynthia M. Stowe's book,
Spelling Smart!) in my study was somewhat inconclusive in that I was not
able to re-administer the pre-assessment (diagnostic screening) at the
end of the year because the student was taken out of school for a summer
vacation the family was taking. This 15 min spelling routine I believe
would work if it were implemented at the beginning of the year. The
trouble is, all of the districts have their own spelling program. My
thought would be taking a group of struggling students and creating a
mini-lesson just for them during Writer's Workshop. I did notice an
improvement in the student's spelling when the student used Wikki Sticks
(U.S. Patent No. 4273537, 1981) which allowed the student to physically
form letters to create individual spelling words from the student’s
weekly spelling list. The third intervention was using magnetic foam
letters on a small white board. There was no real difference between the
use of the Wikki Sticks and the foam letters. The Wikki Sticks are
smaller and take up less room however.

Dee
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Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2003 20:49:21 -0700
Subject: Re: [mosaic] Dyslexia
From: Diane M Shadwick <dshadwick@juno.com>

The way I understand it and the way I wrote it in my research paper is:
Age appropriate tests need to “measure expressive oral language,
expressive written language, receptive oral language, receptive written
language, intellectual functioning, cognitive processing and educational
achievement.” (IDA, 2000). Tests may be administered by a team of
professionals or an individual who is qualified to make a diagnosis of
dyslexia. Once the tests have been administered, a written report needs
to be given to the parents and teachers containing test scores and an
explanation of test results. (IDA, 2000). A recommendation with
specific suggestions for remediation also needs to be included.
So, wouldn't it be the professional team's call as to start with an
intelligence test? I imagine different districts would administer
different tests.
Dee
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From: "Ginger/Rob" <elephant@foxvalley.net>
Subject: [mosaic] a place to start?
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2003 23:12:31 -0500

Hi everybody! The talk about "beginning of the year" activities has me
thinking......

How about we push it to another level?? Let's specifically share how we are
planning to start our strategy instruction this school year. Members who
are already back in school can share what they've done so far.

I know I could use more "touchstone text" titles and authors (the picture
books/text pieces specially chosen for a purpose). I am hoping to adventure
into uncharted territory and start my instruction a different way this fall.

I have been reading Wondrous Words (I am almost finished and HIGHLY
recommend it to everyone who teaches writing workshop if you don't already
have it!!!) and hope to follow Katie Wood Ray's suggested line of study to
first "teach kids to read as a reader". I plan on doing this by following
Ardie Cole's study of conversation from K2K. The books I select will also
be "revisited" during writing workshop where I will teach them to "read like
a writer". Katie says to bring out the books used in reading workshop after
the students have come to "know" the story and can be more available to look
at the writing of the text.

I am still very sketchy on exactly how to do this because I am still in
process with it all myself. But that is the fun of it for me. This summer
I got myself very stressed out about how I was going to change my teaching
for the fall. You know me, I can never just go back and do it the same way.
No I have to read a TON of professional books and take on new and "better"
instructional practices. (Can anyone relate to this??) Last weekend my
husband and I took a three day trip to a secluded cottage in the woods with
no phone and NO COMPUTER and I did NOT bring ANY SCHOOL STUFF. Only
magazines and novels. When my thoughts turned to school I forced them out
of my mind. It was hard but well worth it. I was able to get back some
peace and serenity that I had let go due to my frantic learning and reading
and panicking about school. So...... I promised myself that I would work
REAL HARD to not get stressed out when we got back. And I am happy to say
that I am doing pretty well. Sure, I really don't have a clear picture on
how it will look, sound, feel YET. But I plan on doing a lot of talking
with the AMAZING teachers at the school I transferred to and it will get
more firmed up just in time. I know that!

Some of the members on the list are VERY new at the strategy teaching. I
know it would be very helpful if some of the "veteran" strategy teachers
could walk us all through your ideas/plans for starting out your studies.
Just think out loud to the group. Who cares if it is long. We can all
absorb the sharing and put it to good use in our teaching.

As I get clearer on the titles I will be trying out this fall I will post my
thoughts. I know Eve Bunting is a favorite of mine but I need to really
study her writing to see what "craft" I can identify. I am glad that
Wondrous Words has a list of what I should be looking for to help my
students "find" it in their inquiry studies on writing.

Oh- I am also going to try the Math Essentials stuff from North Carolina in
the fall. I have Deborah's directions all printed out and will be
organizing my "stuff" soon. I see nothing but great "connections" to my
reading instruction. How can it not connect when it is all cognitive
strategy work?????

So everyone take the plunge and jump right into this thread! Anyone have a
clever way to name these responses in the subject line????? Since beginning
of the year is already going with community building ideas???

It's been good to write in again. I've missed doing that.

Ginger
moderator
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From: "Mary Kaleta" <mekaleta@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [mosaic] Dyslexia and sped
Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2003 23:53:40 -0500

I see that we have started to move on to another thread, but I wanted to put
in my two cents regarding this reading problem. I have been a learning
disabilities teacher for the past thirty years. Before that I taught 4th
grade for three years. I ,also, read the TIME article about dyslexia. I'm
always checking out the new&nbsp;research. I was disappointed after reading
the article. It was the same old information except for the sensory imaging
(Yeah. technology!). There has always been two camps regarding dyslexia. Is
dyslexia is a learning disability or a reading problem? Most LD programs do
not recognize dyslexia as a learning disability. Most sped teachers are not
specially trained to work with dyslexic students. I do not know too many
school districts who embrace the Orton-Gillingham method. But I have seen it
used in private schools. When a child is evaluated for a special program,
sped or&nbsp;something different,&nbsp;a routine battery of tests are used.
Usually it consists of an intelligence test, achievement testing an
d possibly some projectives to determine emotional problems. The child must
have average to above average intelligence, processing deficits and a
discrepancy between achievement and performance to qualify for sped. Most
schools have their own guidelines based&nbsp;within the&nbsp;federal
guidelines.My district never&nbsp;labels a child dyslexic, but that they
have a reading problem. Then we serve that child in our sped program if they
meet the other criteria</DIV>
<DIV>From my experience and education in learning disabilities, the sped
teachers focus on strengths not weaknesses. The child is taught to learn
compensation strategies.So if a child has not been able to internalize
phonics when reading, a visual approach is used. I have found that a
multisensory approach is best for me. I have also found that a very
structured program well too. Plus you model, model, model and practice,
practice, practice. I have even used a strictly linguistic approach with
great success when I taught sped in elementary school. Now that I am in
middle school the challenge is unbelievable. I now deal with many other
factors: poor self esteem, reading negativity, poor teaching and emotional
problems. I always ask myself what can I do different that someone else
hasn't already tried. How can I present strategies so its fun and
motivating? How can a reach the student?</DIV>
<DIV>Dyslexia has been a topic for discussion for many years. Research
continues and some new teaching methods are tried. I have not found any new
magic over the years. I have found that teachers, students and parents must
work together with a definite plan. Students <U>must </U>read outside of
school with parental supervision. Dyslexia does not get outgrown and will be
a struggle for many years. I have also found that many students do learn to
read. They&nbsp;do learn to function in the world and can become a
successful member of a community.<
The end of my two cents!

Mary/gr.8
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Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2003 22:08:04 -0700
Subject: Re: [mosaic] Dyslexia
From: "Janet Holbrook" <jmholbrook@earthlink.net>

Is it because they're looking for a discrepancy between ability and
achievement in order to qualify for special education? Federal law says
there must be a discrepancy in order to qualify for special education. If a
child's IQ is low, it's harder to find a discrepancy. Could that be the
reason behind what your school district does?

Janet in CA
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From: MissWalsh1@aol.com
Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2003 01:18:05 EDT
Subject: [mosaic] MOT ? for the experts

In a message dated 8/1/2003 11:30:48 PM Central Standard Time,
elephant@foxvalley.net writes:

> Some of the members on the list are VERY new at the strategy teaching. I
> know it would be very helpful if some of the "veteran" strategy teachers
> could walk us all through your ideas/plans for starting out your studies.
>

Ginger,

This is an excellent idea. I have read Mosaic twice, Strategies that Work
once, and I'm about to crack open Reading with Meaning. I also skimmed 7
Keys
to Comprehension. I was lucky enough to visit your classroom, as well as
Sandi's, in the spring, and after I returned to my own room I did a few
little
things here and there. But, this fall will be my first time really trying
to
teach the strategies, and I could use the help of the experts!

I have some questions for you experts out there... First, what order of
strategies do you use? Strategies that Work explains them in this order:
Making
Connections, Questioning, Visualizing, Inferring, Determining Importance,
and
Synthesizing. The book doesn't mention fix up strategies, but I would add
that
to the list, and begin with those as I do every year with my second graders.
Do you find that this order works, or would you switch it up a little? I
know Mosaic of Thought writes about them in a different order, which I found
interesting.

Do most of you use the term schema or background knowledge, and why? These
books tend to alternate between the terms.

Also, when you have your students code text (t-t, t-w, t-s, A, ?, BK, I,
etc...) do you have them write these on post-its, or have you found another
way?
I know STW mentions a lot of charts for the teacher to record on, and I was
wondering if anyone out there uses those for the children to record on
instead
of the post-its. If you do have them use post-its, do they just stick them
in
their reading notebook each day?

I think I had some more questions, but I can't remember them at the moment.
Thanks to those experts out there!

Leah 2nd
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From: "Folster" <jfolster@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: [mosaic] Beginning of year...any thoughts, any thoughts...
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2003 23:35:40 -0700


Hi
An activity I really enjoy is to break the kids into groups according to =
birth order. Oldest, Youngest, middle, only
One can alter the groups a bit to keep them small. My "middle" group was =
large so I broke them up further into only girl; only boy.=20
I had the kids discuss the things they liked about their position in the =
family and those they didn't. It really fostered comraderie and gave the =
kids a very different way to identify with each other.
I had one person in each group be the spokesperson for them and share =
their insights with the class.
Judy
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From: RKCTEC5@aol.com
Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2003 08:27:19 EDT
Subject: Re: [mosaic] beginning/writing

Ginger,
One of the first things I want to set up in my writing workshop is a
consistent time, and procedures for what we are going to do. I need to look
at my
schedule and carve out at least 45 minutes to an hour that can be devoted
everyday to writing.

I need to begin with a writerly life study, helping my children know what
writers do, and the office work of writing. Specific procedures need to be
modeled and rituals need to be put in place. In 2nd grade and above,
writers
notebooks need to be introduced, and a big deal must be made of how
important
notebooks are to writers. It's a place for keeping ideas, thoughts, seeds,
topics
. . . These could be pictures, sketches, wondrous words we want to
remember
that we read in a text, try-its from a mini-lesson, ideas that jump into our
head when we are at home (notebooks go home and come back everyday), seed
ideas, ways with words . . .

Because k/1 children are developmentally less able to look back, they
usually
begin new pieces most everyday and keep them in a folder. When it comes
time
to publish, they look in their folders (as opposed to a notebook) and find a
piece that they want to develop more through revision, or a piece they can
use
as an idea (seed) for a new piece. Or they might look for one small
important idea that is common in most of their writing, and develop that.
Or if in a
genre study, they will sift their folder writings to look for ideas or
pieces
that already fit the genre they are learning, and use one of them as an idea
for the genred piece they will take to publishing.

Where will the students get paper? Where will I store it for easy access?
Does my paper limit what they will write? How?

In k/1, do I have some paper that is blank, some with all lines large enough
for their kind of printing, some with boxes for pictures and lines above or
below, some with four sheets folded and stapled once to make a book, some
with
lines drawn to show the form of a letter, some with numbered lines for
making
lists?

Do I have folders set up for writing in progress (used daily), folders for
published work, and a cumulative folder for keeping all writing through the
year?
DO I HAVE A DATE STAMPER AND PAD? Essential for looking at work over time.
And I need to model for my children how to use it properly and how to select
paper and put a date on it everytime they begin a piece.

What writing instruments will I use? I use black felt tip pens in k/1
because it keeps the kids from erasing, it makes coping their work for
documentation
easier, and we are able to see changes and thus remember our thinking that
led to those changes. I model putting the caps on and listening for the
click
when finished with the pens.

How will my students be during the workshop? What structures will be
predictable and will happen each day? I will use a group/write/group
structure that
contains a group mini-lesson, then everyone is sent off to write while I do
one-on-one conferring, and then the group will come back for a sharing of
some
kind that can vary each day. This structure can be varied. Sometimes I
will
want to start my kids right out writing with me conferring. This allows me
to
find out how my kids are making sense of what has been taught previously,
then I will pull them together in the middle of the workshop for a
mini-lesson
because of something I have noticed in their writing that day. I may then
have
certain children share because something in their writing demonstrated the
point of my mini-lesson, and then send them back to write. So that would be
a
write/group mini-lesson, share/write structure.

Am I going to use a word wall for high frequency words, and other topic
related mini-word walls for colors, numbers, people, children's names,
thematic
word lists etc? Will my word walls be at eye level for the k/1's, and
contain
large enough print that it can be easily read and accessed?

Have I looked at my school calendar, mapped out the weeks with vacations X'd
out, and written out my curriculum calendar for the year? After a couple
weeks of writerly life, then what? Will I vary my craft and genre studies
so
children have choices about genre during a craft study, and choices about
crafting
techniques during a genre study? What genre studies are most important at
my
grade level? Which ones, like fiction, are better suited for third grade
and
above when children can differentiate between real, realistic, and
make-believe?

What other procedures need to be modeled? How we will listen to each other
during sharing? What kinds of questions are helpful to help one think
through
what has been shared? What will our voices be like during writing? How
will
we know we have found a good place to write? When I send my children from
the
mini-lesson on the carpet to write, I send them one at a time or a few at a
time, after I know they fully understand what they are going to do and how,
and
after I know they have some idea of what they are going to write.

Most of my mini-lessons the first couple of weeks will be on the office work
of writers, procedures, how to get and use supplies, how to find a good spot
to write that will allow us to take care of our friends and ourselves, and
modeling each day how to respectfully pass the date stamper and get those
papers
stamped once, and not ourselves. In short, I will be setting up rituals.
Ruby
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From: "btillman" <btillman@farmerstel.com>
Subject: Re: [mosaic] writing strategies
Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2003 08:28:09 -0400

Ginger,
As Literacy Coach at my school, I am heading our Professional Development in
the writing area this year. I want our school to begin a systematic writing
curriculum from Preschool to 5th grade. Our literacy coach training focused
some on this during the summer, and I thought I would share with you about
that.
Katie Wood Ray's books will be a centerpiece of our PD this year. I have
Wondrous Words, and recently got _What you Know by Heart_, which goes
somewhat into depth about how teachers design writing curriculum.
The first thing she says is to really teach kids about writing, you have to
write yourself. If there are things you expect the kids to write, you have
to write those same pieces yourself, so that you will know them "by heart"
and be able to relate to the writing process the kids are going through. She
mentions that you don't have to do it every year, once you have gone through
that particular type of writing you have it forever, and you can explain it
to children.
Our trainer this summer, Dr. Sharon Walpole, did a neat thing with us about
writing, and this is how I'd like to encourage my teachers to do it.
She first asked us to write for 15 minutes. She said that since funding for
our REA grant would be gone, we needed to begin to make a case for what we
felt were the most important aspects in our local paper. She said these
editorials would help encourage the local school board to continue funding
for these programs. (AUTHENTIC PURPOSE FOR WRITING THE GENRE)
So, we each spent 15 minutes just writing. ( I can tell you I wrote
everything I knew about REA and it was as dull as dirt!)
She then pulled out a graphic organizer (2 column, with genre on the left,
and craft on the right) She said she considered the genre to be things you
would put about the writing type (editorial) on a graphic organizer. So we
took some time to list all the things we thought should be in
editorials, --facts, opinions, pleading your case, etc.
Then we looked at craft--what makes an editorial style unique? What ways do
writers make editorials more interesting to read? I must admit this column
was pretty bare.
Then we got out 2 editorials by William Raspberry (I think he writes for the
Washington Post??) We looked at his two editorials, and made notes of the
craft he used-- in one he used a musical metaphor for poking fun at his own
harping on the subject of parent education.
In another, he stated facts about an AFT proposal for education. The craft
section of our Graphic Organizer quickly filled up with all the things he
did.
Next, she encouraged us to go back to our writing and "tune it up" with some
of the strategies that we saw Raspberry use. It was amazing how we could go
back and tweak our writing!!!
At the same time, we used the poem/story "If you're Not From the Prairie"
and each person wrote a poem If you're not from...
Over the 4 day training, different people shared their poetry, and it
brought tears to our eyes!
It was a wonderful way to introduce the 'how to' of Katie Wood Ray's books.
We then broke into grade level groups, and had a copy of many genres that
she gave us. She encouraged us to try and decide which ones were most
important at different grade levels. She said to divide the year into 4
sections, and in K, cover 1 genre the first 9 weeks, then 2, 2, and 2 for a
total of 7.
1st grade- 2,2,3,3, for a total of 10
2nd grade 2,3,3,3 for a total of 11
same at 3rd & up.
We had some overlap of genres, but that was okay, because we felt that they
would be more sophisticated at higher levels.
Once you know the specific genres you are going to cover, align them with
your teaching of reading, so that you are reading/writing in the same genre.
So...
If in 1st grade, you begin with autobiographies, (a ME book), you can then
read some 'autobiographical stories' like Tomie de Paola's _The Art Lesson_
Cynthia Rylant's _When I was Young in the Mountains_ and anything by
Patricia Polacco.
Does this make sense? It really fired me up!
Cece/LC/GA
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From: RKCTEC5@aol.com
Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2003 09:17:52 EDT
Subject: Re: [mosaic] writing strategies

Cece,
This was such a great reminder of how we need to immerse the children in a
genre before we can expect them to write well in that genre. You guys
really
learned the attributes of editorials by picking apart good editorials, and
you
then were able to write better ones yourselves. That is the beauty of
choosing
good touchstones.

I would be a little cautious about doing so many genre studies in the same
year. Most genre studies take about three weeks to do well. If one does 11
in
one year, it leaves little time for studying craft, and the published
writing
that the children do becomes more like an assignment because there is never
time for the child to choose a genre. During craft studies one can find out
how
much children have internalized about previoulsy studied genres by how well
they can use that knowledge to write. This allows for continuous review,
during conferring, of genres learned, and more opportunities for kids to
remember
what has been taught. But I can easily see 11 or so units of study being
taught during the year.

You've made lots of sense to me, and yes, it fires me up to see the
excitement your teachers experienced, the way your teachers were allowed to
discover
more about editorials, then write, tweak, and rewrite them themselves, and
the
amount of learning that took place with the model of professional
development
they experienced.

I wish you wondrous days of coaching writing!
Ruby
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From: Creecher12@aol.com
Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2003 09:41:26 EDT
Subject: Re: [mosaic] writing strategies

In a message dated 8/2/03 8:37:21 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
btillman@farmerstel.com writes:

> At the same time, we used the poem/story "If you're Not From the Prairie"
> and each person wrote a poem If you're not from...
>

The author of "If you're Not From the Prairie" David Bouchard, was a keynote
speaker at the Whole Language Umbrella conference last week. Incredible man
and speaker. If you ever get the chance to see him, don't pass it up.

We have to teach about Roseville, where my school is, as part of our third
grade curriculum.
This is a great idea for a culminating activity. Maybe even and pre and
post!
Thanks.

Nancy Creech
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From: RKCTEC5@aol.com
Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2003 09:54:49 EDT
Subject: Re: [mosaic] writing strategies

One more thing about setting up your curriculum. As the children move into
higher grades, Isoke Nia suggests doing fewer genre studies, about four a
year,
and focusing more and more on craft studies. In fourth grade and up, genre
studies might take five weeks each. In between, much work is dedicated to
all
the other aspects of writing.

More genre studies are done in primary because most children know little
about genre, and the attributes of each. But still, they are best not done
back
to back.

It is also a good idea to know which genres have been taught in which
grades,
so one can adjust accordingly. That is not to say that once taught, a genre
should never be taught again. Expectations for levels of sophistication
must
be considered. A kindergarten list book might contain two words, or one
sentence on a page, but a third grade listbook could be as sophisticated as
When I
Was Young in the Mountains, with a paragraph per page, plus it's written in
the memoir genre.
Ruby
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From: "Kelley Kennedy" <kelleyken@msn.com>
Subject: Re: [mosaic] MOT ? for the experts
Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2003 10:19:23 -0500

I'm starting with fix up strategies (doing a "say something," doing a =
"1-2") just so kids get used to thinking about their thinking. I'm =
doing this for the first three weeks. Then I'm jumping in to schema. =
I've been working really hard on specific plans for how to do this, as =
well as a list of texts for each strategy. I'll share with the group =
soon. :)

Leah, I love the questions you raise. I use the term "schema" just =
because my kids think it's a cool word. I even have it printed in fancy =
word art and it hangs on the wall so we can always point to it during =
discussions.

I'm going to be doing more charting this year, but I still want to use =
post its. I'm also interested in how you "experts" organize these. Any =
easy and effective ways?

Kelley/2/IN
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From: Soswes@aol.com
Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2003 11:29:05 EDT
Subject: Re: [mosaic] MOT ? for the experts:long answer

Hi, Leah!

I'm certainly not an expert, but I will try and answer some of your
questions
based on my experience. And I would also be interested in hearing others,
because I am continually growing and changing....thus, even some of my
answers
may not be complete, but just reflections based on the previous year.

This was how I started the year with first graders:

Now, remember, these are the comprehension strategies, and at the same time
I
am teaching them decoding strategies. It's important for them to remember
that decoding and comprehension go hand in hand, or as one of my students
last
year said, "it's like building blocks...one on top of the other." Yes...a 6
year old said that!

I spend 6-8 weeks on a strategy, but I am constantly tying them together. I
will specifically model one strategy at a time, but I think it's important
that they understand that you are using all of them or a few of them at a
time...what ever helps them understand the book.

Metacognition: I wanted them to think about their thinking. I wanted them
to know that they have a little voice in their head as they read/write...and
to
listen to it. I think I spent a week on this last year, but constant
brought
it up. It always depends on the kids exactly how long anything really
lasts.

Schema: I use the term schema, but it's important they know what that
means,
so I am constantly saying the word and the meaning...using what you know.
We
begin with "this book reminds me of..." and move it up to T-S; T-T; T-W and
then into author schema.

I use a Thinking Journal to record their post its. They have a Thinking
journal with them as they read, but they record on the post it and then put
it in
the Thinking Journal (a spiral notebook). This helps me keep track of their
post its as I review them, a record of growth. Some kids forgo the postits
and
will just write in the journal, which I do not have a problem with; it's the
thinking I'm looking at.

I also have strategy forms that I use and have available for the kids to use
as well after I have modeled them. They can use these instead of post its
if
they want or they can use both....I just want them thinking....it's not the
form that matters, its the thinking process. And not all forms work for all
children.

We are also starting our anchor charts. Our first one is comparing
comprehension strategies and decoding strategies. We have also created
various schema
anchor charts.

After Schema, I move into visualizing. Same thing....we are still talking
about decoding strategies, and we include schema, but the focus is
visualizing.
We are creating anchor charts at the same time and adding to our
decoding/comprehension anchor chart.

After visualizing, I move into inferring. I had never taught inferring to
first graders before, other than predicting, so this was new and scary
territory
for me last year. However, don't let anyone say that first graders can't
infer...they sure can! I did question why inferring before questioning, but
it
worked. To answer questions, they have to be able to infer in some cases,
so
I'm keeping to this order.

We made anchor charts; I gave them various strategy sheets they could use to
help them; added to our comprehension/decording anchor chart. We ended the
8
week study with a lesson based on Lewis Carrolls Jabberwocky. I wanted them
to understand that reading was about making meaning...and they got it.

I think the key is constantly tying the strategies together, yet
specifically
teaching and modeling only one.

After visualizing, I went into questioning. They love this, but I was
getting frustrated with them just asking questions and not working towards
the
answer.....but by the end of the year....they were doing it...so I guess it
takes
time and patience.

After questioning, I went into Determining Importance. This is where I have
questions. I cut the focus time short, because we had done so much with non
fiction reading through out the year, and with fiction, determining themes,
etc., that they didn't need it....they were doing this already. Or was I
missing
the point? I have to work on this one.

Last, we went into synthesizing. At first, I didn't think they would get
it...but they did! I posted some of the responses I was getting from kids
earlier in the year...it was amazing.

I didn't specifically teach fix up strategies, because I was constantly
tying
decoding and comprehension together. They know what to do if they couldn't
decode the word, and if they didn't understand, we had strategies to use,
because we had tied them together as we went. Is that the right
way....don't
know....but they were getting it.

One of my students was reading a Junie B Jones book (this is while we were
doing synthesizing) and he was having trouble understanding a particular
part.
He shared his questions about, but them, he remembered reading about this
particular character in another book, and it helped him understand why that
same
character did what he did in the current book. Sorry...can't give the
titles
and exact details, because it blew me away that a 6 year was doing this! I
was
amazed....yet it was "fixing up" his understanding.

So, Leah...I hope this helps....I''m still working on it myself...but I will
say one thing...teaching like this made each and every day exciting....I
couldn't wait to get to school and I can't wait to get back now!

Can't wait to hear how others do it!

Sandi
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Date: Sat, 02 Aug 2003 11:31:46 -0400
From: "KAREN VOLK" <volkk@bcschools.net>
Subject: [mosaic] Another book recommendation or two

This summer I am reading The Writing Workshop; Working through the Hard
Parts (and They're All Hard Parts) by Katie Wood Ray. I highly
recommend it. I'll be new to third grade this year and it has really
influenced my thought pattern on how to approach writing workshop this
fall.

I also highly recommend the books in the Responsive Classroom (The First
Six Weeks of School, The Morning Meeting Book, and Classroom Spaces that
Work). They are absolutely fantastic and available through Stenhouse or
www.responsiveclassroom.org. They discuss the importance of
establishing community in your classroom and making your classroom user
friendly. Which are all things that have to be in place before we can
run any type of workshop approach successfully.

Karen
(3rd grade)
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Date: Sat, 02 Aug 2003 11:47:49 -0400
Subject: Re: [mosaic] Another book recommendation or two
From: Peggy Bahr <pbahr@mac.com>

I agree with you, Karen. The Responsive Classroom books have really helped
me set up a non-threatening, supportive environment. The First Six Weeks of
School has wonderful non-competitive games to help pull everyone together.

Also, I can't remember whether this idea is in one of the books, or if I
heard it from Chip Wood, who visited our school a couple of years ago. But
for the first couple of weeks, I have the kids do their homework at school.
This allows me to help establish standards for work, clear up misconceptions
about assignments, and understand how long it takes children to complete
different types of assignments. The completed assignments go home that night
so that parents can see what is expected, and then the assignments are
returned to school the next day to help establish the routine (and to get
credit).

It's kind of frustrating to give up "instructional" time to do homework, but
it is really some of the most valuable instruction the children get all
year. And in the long run, it's well worth the time.

Peggy 5/KY
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From: "Joe & Karla McAdam" <jlmcadam3@ameritech.net>
Subject: Re: [mosaic] MOT ? for the experts
Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2003 11:07:58 -0500

Where to begin is always a big question and one that most still ponder =
over year after year. I certainly do not have a sure fire formula for =
where to begin. Probably the first question you should ask yourself is, =
"Do I want to teach strategies in isolation?" For my purposes, 6th =
grade, I am thinking "no...and then yes." I feel like time will be =
better spent introducing various strategies and revisiting them on a =
regular basis, however, to introduce the strategies, they are typically =
taught in isolation. Another question to ask yourself is, "Have the =
students been exposed to strategy work in the past?" Mine have little =
exposure, some none. =20

I think I will begin by explaining the umbrella of metacognition. I =
will provide them with a visual which shows how all of the strategies =
fit under this umbrella. I want them to think about their thinking. =
Then, I will move ahead with schema and questioning. I am a heavy user =
of questioning in other content areas, so I feel this is important to =
establish at the start. I also feel it necessary to make students aware =
of how their schema will change throughout the year...and that it is =
okay for this process to happen. Many aren't aware of how schema works =
(or that it even exists) and sometimes feel as if their previous schema =
was incorrect.=20

I am not sure where I will go from there. If anyone has a successful =
order of strategies for 6th grade, I would love to hear your thoughts. =20

One last thing to Leah...I would highly recommend that you contact Sandi =
(who frequently posts here-- Soswes@aol.com). She is an awesome first =
grade teacher. I observed her classroom this past spring and was totally =
blown away by the abilities and strategy knowledge that her AT RISK =
first grade students had. They would beat the pants off of our students =
any day. She was an inspiration!

~Karla
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From: JATShaw@aol.com
Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2003 12:04:00 EDT
Subject: Re: [mosaic] beginning/writing

In a message dated 8/2/2003 5:32:51 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
RKCTEC5@aol.com
writes:

> writing workshop

This description plus the book Wondrous Words (fabulous) almost make me want
to start school over again! My writing memories include a teacher who said,
"Why can't you write like.....?" and papers returned dripping with red ink
but
no suggestions on what to do next and a time a paper was returned with the
comment "Well written, no grade 1 spelling error (dissect)! Thank goodness
writing instruction has improved!!! And of course, reading instruction has
too
(HURRAH!) as those memories include 3 groups and round-robin reading. (And
believe it or not, this was a supposedly progressive, well-thought-of school
district.) Now, many years later I can remember observing in a classroom
early in
the year (late 60s) where a little girl was reading; her pre-primer was
propped
up to hide The Wizard of Oz. Thankfully with the methods discussed (and
actually used!) by you all, these scenes won't be repeated. (At least not
by the
members of this LISTSERV.)
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From: "Joe & Karla McAdam" <jlmcadam3@ameritech.net>
Subject: Re: [mosaic] Another book recommendation or two
Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2003 11:15:51 -0500

Awesome idea Peggy. Mind if I use it? I think it sounds like a great way
to establish guidelines and expectations so you don't battle those down the
road. I also like the idea of sending completed work home for parents to
view so they, too, know what the expectations and guidelines are. It
provides an excellent two-way communication opportunity. Thanks!

~Karla
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From: "Joan Matuga" <joan3teach@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [mosaic] Dyslexia
Date: Sat, 02 Aug 2003 09:17:23 -0700

I started the discussion on Dyslexia.&nbsp; Several participants had
questions/comments that were addressed in the book.&nbsp; I'll try to
</P></DIV>

Dr. Shaywitz does not believe that intelligence tests should be used to
determine a diagnosis of dyslexia.&nbsp; She prefers other things like,
reading a list of nonsense words, inability to distinguish rhyming words, a
naming test, slow fluency, delayed spoken&nbsp; language, difficulty in
reading little words (in, on, the...), poor spelling, poor handwriting,
memorizing words rather than sounding out, low self-esteem because he/she
can't "get it" even though they are successful in many other areas,
difficulty in repeating (remembering nursery rhymes in pre-school), history
of reading problems in family, lack of a strategy in learning new words,
fear of reading aloud, reliance on context in learning new words, .&nbsp;
She goes on and on&nbsp; (pages 122-126 in her book)&nbsp; Another list is
shown on page 161.&nbsp;

A big point in her book is <EM>"A child who reads accurately but not
fluently is dyslexic."( page 133)

Dyslexic students also have comprehension difficulties.&nbsp; I'm
paraphrasing what she says on page 246.&nbsp; They don't get much from their
reading and can't answer questions such as "What is this book about?".&nbsp;
They don't enjoy reading and spend the same amount of time reading easy and
difficult content.&nbsp; They don't draw inferences, can't distinguish
important ideas from details, don't check their reading, don't make
predictions, don't finish books, avoid reading...
<P>Successful students and adults with dyslexia have developed strong higher
level thinking skills to compensate for this.&nbsp; They&nbsp;often are
excellent writers in content areas (if spelling is not a consideraton) and
do extremely well in highly specialized areas such as medicine, law,
finance, &nbsp;&nbsp;architecture.&nbsp; They are&nbsp;&nbsp;articulate
in&nbsp;expressing ideas&nbsp;and feelings are empathetic with others.&nbsp;
They are great thinkers outside the box.....((pages 126-7)&nbsp;

When reading, they take extra time.

Things that have helped are developing a passionate interest in other areas
and focus the reading on that interest, repeated readings to improve
fluencey, using lap top computer for word processing, following text with
ruler, taking notes on what is read and reviewing notes, quiet area for
reading and studying, repeatedly questioning self.&nbsp; For young children,
phonics instructions on a systematic basis&nbsp; 4-5 days a week for 1
hour&nbsp; in individual or small group (no more than 3 children).&nbsp;
Most importantly for children:&nbsp; strong supportive parents who are
advocates and champions for the children.&nbsp; It is preferable to have
early diagnois and treatment.</P>

She is a strong advocate for phonics.&nbsp; I won't discuss this.</P>

However, what she says about reading sounds like what we do:&nbsp;
"establish a purpose for reading, identify the title and author, comment on
the cover illustration, scan the pages, establish the W's, relate the story
and events to child's existing knowledge and interests, predict future
events, summarize main ideas, generate questions as you read, make
inferences, clarify words or confusing concepts, use imagery or
visualization, organize ideas, perhaps graphically on paper, retell the
sequence, enjoy the story."&nbsp; (page 245)&nbsp; These are part of her
recommendations for parents.<BR><BR></P>
Successful adults with dyslexia include:&nbsp; John Irving, Wendy
Wasserstein, Stepen Cannell, Charles Schwab, Surgeon Graeme Hammond,
...<BR><BR>

I hope this extremely long e-mail helps answer a few questions raised in
this discussion.&nbsp; I am not an expert in this subject.&nbsp; I wanted to
read more about this&nbsp; because I was concerned because I have many
students who read but don't understand.&nbsp; If the facts, as she states,
that 1 in 5 students are dyslexic are true, the problem is enormous.&nbsp;
Reading is a new skill (50,000 years old) and the brain is not naturally
wired for it.&nbsp; The brain is pre-wired for speaking.</DIV>

Joan Matuga
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From: "Ed Asselin" <sharoned@charter.net>
Subject: Re: [mosaic] Another book recommendation or two
Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2003 11:29:35 -0500

If you are reading the responsive classroom books (Morning Meeting Book,
First Six Weeks, etc.) add Rules in Schools to your list. It's the latest
book and illustrates how to develop goals (hopes and dreams) and rules with
your students. It's excellent!
Sharon in WI
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From: "Loyd or Gayla King" <lgking@netdot.com>
Subject: Re: [mosaic] Dyslexia
Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2003 11:37:17 -0500
Reply-To: mosaic@u46teachers.org

Re: [mosaic] DyslexiaMy question is....can a child with adverage to low
IQ be dyslexic? Do all dyslexic people have high IQs?
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From: JATShaw@aol.com
Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2003 12:32:10 EDT
Subject: Re: [mosaic] Dyslexia and spelling

In a message dated 8/1/2003 9:23:04 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
dshadwick@juno.com writes:

> spelling program

There is a computer program called Wordsort (available through
http://www.hendersonedsoft.com/ ) that helps build word recognition fluency
by focusing on spelling patterns. It was featured in an article in the
IRA's
JAAL a few years back. That particular study noted that students working on
this program for reading fluency also improved their spelling. (The program
can
be individualized and keeps track of the user's progress. And it's
relatively
cheap.) I'm not a huge fan of CAI but this is one program that seems to
provide individualized practice to someone who needs it. BTW how are you
folks
using technology? We are state-mandated to make sure our adults complete
reading, writing, math, and computer competencies. And now we are
scrambling to meet
the federally mandated assessment expectations. (Our state fought long and
hard for authentic assessments only to be judged out of compliance in a
recent
audit. We'll now be using CASAS pre and post, which will probably scare our
adults half to death....it takes them so long to tip toe across our
threshold
only to be greeted by multiple required assessments that with native
speakers
are individually administered. Funding=compliance unfortunately.)

Dee, where do you get these Wikki sticks?
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From: JLabar1026@aol.com
Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2003 12:48:55 EDT
Subject: Re: [mosaic] Dyslexia

In a message dated 8/2/03 12:36:47 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
lgking@netdot.com writes:

> My question is....can a child with average to low IQ be dyslexic? Do all
> dyslexic people have high IQs?
>
>

In my teaching experience-absolutely.

A couple things . . . early on with my teaching of reading I was struck when
a young lady- 20 years of age- mildly limited IQ full scale 55. . . Reading
Grade Level- around 3.5. This young lady had word attacks firmly in place
and
did not demonstrate confusion with letter sound relationships. On the other
hand- comprhension represented serious needs.

On the other hand, RP High average IQ- GE 2.0- (classic profile for
Dyslexia)
had much confusion with blending letters, recognizing words, and confusion
with sounds and symbols. He was one of my favorite students . . . taught me
so
much about Reading LD.

Now-to your question IQ below 70 and Dyslexia- I have seen it . . . but the
cognitive functioning and limitations have to be teased out from the LD.
Depends on how you feel about multiple disabilities. I would like to read a
thoughtful study on borderline IQ and dyslexia.

Moreover, you don't have to have a high average IQ in order to have
dyslexia.

Remember - Dr. Sam Orton began his studies in a hospital for mental health
issues in the early 1900's.

BG
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From: "Kelley Kennedy" <kelleyken@msn.com>
Subject: Re: [mosaic] technology
Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2003 11:59:58 -0500

This year I'm planning on having my kids go to computer lab and =
highlight word chunks in Microsoft Word. I have poems made up for each =
month. We'll also use them to find nouns, word endings, etc. Hey, =
maybe I should have them highlight words that give them strong mental =
images. . .

I hope some of you will visit. I worked pretty hard, and I'm pretty =
proud of it. :)Anyway, here's the address for any interested. =20
http://fcsc.k12.in.us/staff/kennedyk/Word%20Chunk%20Finds.htm

Kelley/2/IN
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From: "Loyd or Gayla King" <lgking@netdot.com>
Subject: Re: [mosaic] MOT ? for the experts
Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2003 12:08:10 -0500

I'm still wondering if Determining Importance shouldn't come early in =
the year. Here's why...we read lots of nonfiction (starting at the =
beginning of the year) and the whole story language of fiction =
(characters, plot, setting, etc., etc.) needs to be discussed early on. =
Help me out here...does schema have to be taught in isolation at the =
beginning of the year, or can you introduce these important aspects for =
different kinds of reading as you go along. I'm new at this...I want to =
do it right...

While we at it...how do you incorporate those pesky state standards that =
are tested every three weeks with benchmark testing (i.e. main idea, =
fact/opinion, etc.)? I want to do it all "right" and just am not sure =
how to juggle it all.

gayla in texas/2nd
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From: H1Edwards@aol.com
Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2003 13:47:59 EDT
Subject: Re: [mosaic] Another book recommendation or two

The Morning Meeting Book from the Responsive Classroom series is also a good
resource for games.
Holly/OH/2nd
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From: H1Edwards@aol.com
Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2003 13:54:08 EDT
Subject: Re: [mosaic] Another book recommendation or two

Classrooms Spaces That Work is also a great resource. It discusses:
arranging
furniture; selecting & organizing materials; eliminating clutter; storing
supplies; creating displays that are meaningful; setting up a meeting area;
accomodating special needs; making the space healthy; and keeping the
classroom
clean.
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From: JATShaw@aol.com
Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2003 13:03:08 EDT
Subject: Re: [mosaic] Struggling Readers?

In a message dated 7/25/2003 6:21:37 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
SIMMONS@aol.com writes:


> You repeat, repeat, repeat and they still don't get it.

My guess is that we all have had that experience. Time to try a new
approach, right? Although I've learned that sometimes my idea of adequate
repetition
doesn't begin to cut it. These same strugglers we see as adults who were
left
in the dust when the class moved on. This is really true with math. For
some
reason, you can almost bet on the fact that IF they understand long
division,
they probably quit making any progress when the class did fractions and gave
up shortly thereafter. It's been very refreshing to read the many math
postings! A new day is coming, hurrah.
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From: "Kelley Kennedy" <kelleyken@msn.com>
Subject: Re: [mosaic] MOT ? for the experts
Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2003 13:36:15 -0500

I consider story elements like characters and setting to be part of =
schema because whenever you read a fictional story, you should always be =
thinking about these elements. It's like telling kids that there is a =
certain "story schema," which is all the elements on a story map. Hope =
that makes sense. :)
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From: RKCTEC5@aol.com
Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2003 14:49:48 EDT
Subject: Re: [mosaic] MOT ? for the experts

Sandy,
This was such a helpful posting. I am saving it to reread many times. I
am
pretty good with the writing, and teaching them to read, but I am new to
strategy instruction and haven't finished reading STW, or RWM and I have to
buy
K2K. MOT I absolutely adored!
Thanks for taking the time to outline all of this.
Ruby
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From: "Umm Muadth" <umumuadth@awtechnologies.com>
Subject: RE: [mosaic] Struggling Readers?
Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2003 15:38:05 -0400

" You repeat, repeat, repeat and they still don't get it . "

My guess is that we all have had that experience. Time to try a new
approach, right? Although I've learned that sometimes my idea of adequate
repetition doesn't begin to cut it. These same strugglers we see as adults
who were left in the dust when the class moved on.

This is a very important point. It's not enough simply to repeat it. The
child needs one-to-one intense systematic help daily, for at least 30
minutes. It needs to be multi-sensory and differentiated (starting where
the child is, usually at the beginning with learning the sound/letter
relationship). Each skill needs to be broken down, starting with the sounds
of the letters (names are great but don't help with reading). As Margaret
Bishop writes regarding spelling, in 'The ABC's and All Their Tricks', "When
you are teaching a phonics program, you need to teach spelling right along
with reading. As each new letter sound, letter combination, or
letter-interaction is introduced in first grade, you need to have the
children writing the words which use that item. They should be using it
actively in spelling work and in story-writing. This does not mean copying
or spelling out loud by naming letters. It means writing the words by
pronouncing them and putting down letters to match the pronunciation
(italics are my addition)" (p. 14). The point being that reading is the
same in that pronunciation of the sounds, and learning the various rules and
combinations, is critical.

Break down the reading process and teach each step to the child. I am
reading the book, 'The ABC's and All Their Tricks' by Margaret Bishop to
help with this process. Also, by breaking it all down it becomes manageable
for the child because there are only a few skills reinforced and taught each
week. The child is progressing and experiences success. Some of the things
that I do working with my son, one-to-one, is sound drills (for automaticity
with the sound/letter relationship), sound dictation (reading/writing
synthesis), reading CVC words for fluency, pattern words (forming patterns
to aid fluency), sight words (I will be trying clay for my son to form these
words for a mental picture, association also works for my son), sight word
sentences (to practice reading sight words in sentences), writing sentences
(taken from previous short stories), puzzles sentences (cutting up a short
sentence and have him put it together, taken from previous short stories)
and reading a short story. This is for the very beginning.

Don't forget that children need bigger print to ease the strain they already
experience with the mechanics of reading. Take familiar beginner stories,
or better yet make your own using children's sight and pattern words, and
write them on the computer with a bigger font.

Melissa
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From: "Ginger/Rob" <elephant@foxvalley.net>
Subject: [mosaic] my order in the past
Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2003 16:28:43 -0500

I am resending this from last year.
Although this is the order I've done for three years now, it isn't
set in stone. As I mentioned before I am changing things this year but
this resend may help some of you.
Ginger
===================
There is no suggested order that I know of.

This is what I usually do: metacognition groundwork (knowing what we are
thinking as we read, and knowing when our reading is making sense or not),
the three text connections (t-s/t-t/t-w), author schema, sensory imagery,
questioning, inferring, and determining importance (in the past this has
been strictly done during my study of nonfiction). I never have made it to
synthesis, but now I see how we synthesize throughout and will attempt to
bring that into my teaching more this year.

I think it was Tammie that wrote earlier about just jumping in and taking it
slow and not worrying about how much you get to the first year. I just
worked on schema connections the first year. Plus all the other things I
used to do as I was learning about the strategy teaching myself. Then the
second year I gave myself permission to do NOTHING ELSE but strategy
teaching (and I know that is not correct) and because of that I became
grounded and got through 5 strategies. Not only did I "get through them",
but I became more comfortable and confident in what I was doing. This past
year, I was able to start adding back in the other things I had left out.
Like story elements (fits well in schema), more word work, retelling,
various graphic organizers, book clubs, etc.

I think it was Sharon Taberski who said something like: give up the fluff
and just do what is important. Something like that. Yet with state
standards and testing pressures it sure is hard to find what that is. For
me the comprehension work IS what is important. (within a solid balanced
literacy approach of course!) I guess to be blunt I am meaning: I stopped
the cutesy whole class novel packets, let go of the computerized reading
"testing" program the school I was at at the time was insane about, 'after
reading' "projects" and JUST got clear on what I explicitly needed to teach.
Decoding and comprehension and the love of reading. That's it for me.

Ginger
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From: "Ginger/Rob" <elephant@foxvalley.net>
Subject: [mosaic] resend on metacognition study
Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2003 16:32:45 -0500

When I changed my teaching I just jumped into the schema study and taught
the three connections (remember that schema has four parts: text
connections, schema for authors, schema for text
types, and building/revising/developing schema when it is missing) it seemed
that my kids were missing the point. I hadn't done the work prior to the
schema study with them about even HEARING their voice inside. And knowing
when they are understanding or not understanding what they are reading. The
part of "Is this making sense to me or not?" So the second year I DID take
a few steps back and spend a couple weeks on introducing the word
metacognition (they LOVE using the real words!) and doing a LOT of modeling
MYSELF in front of them about MY OWN thinking that I now hear as I read. It
is the thinking out loud piece that is often so awkward at first (for us)
but the MOST crucial piece for their understanding. So for example, I might
read them a picture book and just pause naturally and think out loud as my
thoughts bubble up. At THAT point I do NO teaching of text connections.
Nor do I say, "I have a text to self connection............" I just
casually share my thinking OUT LOUD for them as I am reading. I read to
them just for the sake of enjoying the story but I add in my thinking.
After a few days of that, I literally tell them that today is MY day to do
the work. Their job is to sit and watch what I do and listen to what I am
saying. I tell them that I will be asking them to share what they saw me
doing and what they heard me saying. I also tell them how they will know
when I am reading the words in the book, and when I am sharing my thinking.
("I will hold the book up for you all to see as I am reading. But when I
set the book on my lap, that is the clue that I am about to share my
thinking with you out loud. The thinking I am doing in my head that no one
else can hear. But I want you to listen in on MY thinking because that is
what good readers do. They think about what they are reading.") It's VERY
important that they can tell the difference, especially at the primary
grades. After I read the story I ask them to tell me what they saw me
doing. (example: "You stopped reading and told us what you were thinking
after the part where...." or "You asked a question after reading ......."
or "You didn't just read the words and put the book down." "You thought
about what you were reading.") If they don't come up with those type of
responses, I restate what it was I was modeling for them. So I read and
think out loud for them. This is when you can remember to pull in books you
can reread later for t-s and t-t.) So after a few days of ME just doing the
work, I ask them to share their thinking as I read TO THEM. Just whatever
was bubbling up in their minds (or what their little them caught them saying
inside their head) Especially at first grade, the types of texts you will
be reading to them will not be at their reading level, they will be the
picture books that elicit great thoughts/questions/predictions/images/etc.
So most of your work will be done in the shared stage of the balanced
literacy model. Right? Use Debbie Miller's cute little activity: eye to
eye, knee to knee for quick sharing as you are all gathered together.

I hope this explains how I see a short metacognitive study. You are right-
using ALL of the strategies is being metacognitive. But it's the explicit
teaching that I skipped right over my first year. And after adding that in,
I can always remind them as they are reading to listen to their little voice
inside/be metacognitive and they KNOW what I mean. I even devise ways for
them to share their thinking with a partner, on post its and on various
reporting forms. As they are reading their self selected books.

Ginger
moderator
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From: "Ginger/Rob" <elephant@foxvalley.net>
Subject: [mosaic] another resend/metacognition
Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2003 16:36:20 -0500

Sorry to resend all this, but it may help some new members.
Ginger
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Kelly- I DO have a specific order I teach the comprehension strategies. I
tend to be very methodical about my teaching since I am still finding my way
in this. The first year I read Mosaic I jumped right in with connections.
After rereading it I realized that I needed to go way back and explicitly
teach METACOGNITION. I spent a couple weeks having them get in touch with
their "little them" who sits on their shoulder and "catches" them being
metacognitive. Always LISTENING for their discussion they should be having
in their heads as they read. I modeled my thinking aloud with everything I
read. I even started modeling my thinking aloud when doing math. We defined
metacognition as "thinking about your thinking" and they reported back to me
in various way (post its, reflective written pieces, conferences, etc.)their
use of it as a reader. Eventually I sent them off to read independently and
their purpose was to sit their "little them" on their shoulder, shake hands,
and REALLY be metacognitive as they read. They shared their experiences
back whole group, then small group, then partners. I continued to model and
name myself being metacognitive when I was. I'd often stop my reading aloud
and talk to myself about what I was reading. Then I would set down the
book, look out at them and say, "See how I talk to myself as I read. I
don't just read word after word after word without pausing to think and have
a discussion with myself. I am doing it out loud so you can hear what my
discussions sound like inside my brain. I am being metacognitive."

I realized also that my students were not always AWARE of if they were
understanding what they were reading or not. That became my second study
focus. I did the finger one and finger two idea talked about in MOT.
Before I actually taught it to my students I started doing it myself as I
was reading aloud to them. I would hold up one finger just next to the
book. When I got to a part that was confusing or where I found my mind
wandering or that didn't make sense I switched my finger to two fingers out.
Without saying anything I would talk out loud like, "Oh, that doesn't make
any sense. I need to go back and reread that part." I would reread it and
if that helped me understand that part I put back up just one finger. If
not, I would say, "Well, that didn't help. Now I am going to read on a bit
and see if that helps me out." I would read on a bit and if that helped me
I would put back up one finger. If that didn't help me, (so I was still
holding up 2 fingers) I would say, "Well, rereading didn't help me, reading
on didn't help me, so now I am going to have to find someone to ask because
I can't go on if I don't understand this part." I would then ask my
assistant and she would explain that part to me. **This is NOT used when
coming across tricky words. Words I could not READ. Just for passages I
was not understanding. I did this naturally for a few days. Then one day I
asked if anyone had noticed me doing anything unusual with my fingers as I
was reading these past few days. Of course they had. I had them tell me
what they SAW me doing and what they HEARD me saying. We refined what it
was I was doing and saying so we all had a common understanding of it. We
talked about WHY I was doing it: because readers need to understand what
they are reading to fully enjoy or learn from the words. That a book will
be more rewarding if it makes sense to the reader. That that is what GOOD
READERS DO!!! They don't just keep reading or put the book down when they
don't understand it. (Of course we did talk about exceptions!!! :) ) From
that point on they were to hold out one finger when I was reading aloud and
switch it to two fingers when they were confused. I stopped during those
times and reread, read on, and then explained it to them if need be. Then
they all practiced this on a whole group text and then independently using
post its to mark when they used the HELP strategy as we called it. They
would write HELP at the top of the post it. Under it they would write in a
list: reread, read on, ask. If they found themselves being confused or
distracted they placed the post it note at that point and crossed off what
they tried in that order and circled where they got back their clarity.

Who knows if this was worth the time, but I do know that at least they were
talking the talk about how important it is to be aware (metacognitive) if
they are understanding their text or not. And that books are supposed to
make sense and are not just words on a page to be read one after the other
for no reason.

Then my order is this: (1)SCHEMA Study. Which now includes three subparts-
connections, author schema, and text type schema (haven't gotten to this one
yet this year). (2)SENSORY IMAGERY Study. Which includes making
pictures/movies in their minds, sense of smell, sense of taste, sense of
hearing, sense of textures/touch, and emotions found in text.
(3)QUESTIONING Study. (4)INFERING. Which slides together very well with
questioning at third grade. (5)DETERMINING IMPORTANCE Study.(can be done
earlier both in fiction and nonfiction) (6) SYNTHESIS Study.(haven't got
here yet!)
(7) FIX IT UP Study. (I think I do this all throughout?????????)

Good readers use these strategies interchangeably
and automatically so it is less natural to teach them in isolation. But,
speaking just for myself, when I approached each strategy as a study and
spend the time to go through the gradual release of responsibility as taught
to us in MOT (as best I can and it isn't easy!), my students have seemed to
embrace and integrate this work more deeply and often easier than if I had
combined my teaching of several strategies. I find that as the year goes
on, I work real hard to keep verbally modeling myself using the previously
explicitly taught strategies in like a blend. It's hard work.

I continue to learn as I go.

Ginger
grade 3
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From: "Ginger/Rob" <elephant@foxvalley.net>
Subject: [mosaic] addition to TEACHING TOOLS page
Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2003 17:01:20 -0500

I have just added the following file to the TEACHING TOOLS page found at:
http://www.u46teachers.org/mosaic/tools/tools.htm

1. WRITING-minilessons for writing workshop by Kelley
(look under the Lesson Plan section at the very end)

**I have added documents for assessment, lesson plans, reporting sheets,
staff development information, etc. that members have sent to me to share
with others on the TEACHING TOOLS web page.

If you have something you want me to add there, please send it to me at
HOME at:
elephant@foxvalley.net in an attachment.

***We've had a LOT of new members subscribe this past week. Here are the
important links you may want to bookmark for future use:

We have an ONLINE BOOK DATA BASE located at:
http://www.u46teachers.org/mosaic/strategies.htm
where any of us can add titles of books used in our strategy teaching along
with comments. Take some time this summer to add some books and/or
comments.

We have all of the previous conversations since we started our listserve in
the ARCHIVES at:
http://www.u46teachers.org/mosaic/archive/archive.htm
I try and put about one week's worth of conversations up at a time.
If you have some time to just sit and read the past talk, it is a great way
to learn about this teaching.

Ginger
moderator
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From: "Kelley Kennedy" <kelleyken@msn.com>
Subject: Re: [mosaic] addition to TEACHING TOOLS page
Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2003 17:44:10 -0500

Oops! I just looked at what I submitted and realized I didn't erase the =
"To Do" part at the top. That was just for me. Sorry about that! =20

One thing I want to say, though, is that if you haven't read "How's It =
Going?" by Carl Anderson you really should. I'm sure a lot of you =
probably have, but I was amazed at all the practical ideas for =
conferencing that this book has. =20
Kelley

P.S. I'm so glad for all the discussion about all of your strategy =
study plans. I'm working on mine too and will post when ready. Can we =
also talk about assessment? How often do you assess with rubrics? Are =
rubrics the only way you assess? Do you grade students' written =
responses to literature? If so, how do you assign a grade for a report =
card? I'm really nervous, but think I'm really ready, to assess more =
authentically next year. Thanks for any ideas to ease my transition. :)
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From: RKCTEC5@aol.com
Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2003 20:07:51 EDT
Subject: [mosaic] beginning/staff development

Some of you will be teaching teachers the mosaic strategies and I think the
below passage I just read today, from Steinbeck's East of Eden is just great
to
use to teach imagery, connections, synthesis, importance or questions.
Filled with wisdomly wondrous words that just speak to my soul, and are so
fitting
of today's world, it's also great for writing.
Ruby

>>>From Chapter 13, part 1, pp 130-131:

<< SOMETIMES A KIND OF GLORY lights up the mind of a man. It happens to
nearly everyone. You can feel it growing or preparing like a fuse burning
toward
dynamite. it is a feeling in the stomach, a delight of the nerves, of the
forearms. The skin tastes the air, and every deep-drawn breath is sweet.
Its
beginning has the pleasure of a great stretching yawn; it flashes in the
brain
and the whole world glows outside your eyes. A man may have lived all of
his
life in the gray, and the land and trees of him dark and somber. The
events,
even the important ones, may have trooped by faceless and pale. And then --
the glory -- so that a cricket song sweetens his ears, the smell of the
earth
rises chanting to his nose, and dappling light under a tree blesses his
eyes.
Then a man pours outward, a torrent of him, and yet he is not diminished.
And
I guess a man's importance in the world can be measured by the quality and
number of his glories. It is a lonely thing but it relates us to the world.
It
is the mother of all creativeness, and it sets each man separate from all
other men.

I don't know how it will be in the years to come. There are monstrous
changes taking place in the world, forces shaping a future whose face we do
not
know. Some of these forces seem evil to us, perhaps not in themselves but
because their tendency is to eliminate other things we hold good. It is
true
that two men can lift a bigger stone than one man. A group can build
automobiles
quicker and better than one man, and bread from a huge factory is cheaper
and
more uniform. When our food and clothing and housing all are born in the
com
plication of mass production, mass method is bound to get into our thinking
and to eliminate all other thinking. In our time mass or collective
production
has entered our economics, our politics, and even our religion, so that some
nations have substituted the idea collective for the idea God. This in my
time
is the danger. There is great tension in the world, tension toward a
breaking point, and men are unhappy and confused.

At such a time it seems natural and good to me to ask myself these
questions. What do I believe in? What must I fight for and what must I
fight
against?

Our species is the only creative species, and it has only one creative
instrument, the individual mind and spirit of a man. Nothing was ever
created
by two men. There are no good collaborations, whether in music, in art, in
poetry, in mathematics, in philosophy. Once the miracle of creation has
taken
place, the group can build and extend it, but the group never invents
anything.
The preciousness lies in the lonely mind of a man.

And now the forces marshaled around the concept of the group have
declared a war of extermination on that preciousness, the mind of man. By
disparagement, by starvation, by repressions, forced direction, and the
stunnng
hammerblows of conditioning, the free, roving mind is being pursued, roped,
blunted,
drugged. It is a sad suicidal course our species seems to have taken.

And this I believe: that the free, exploring mind of the individual
human
is the most valuable thing in the world. And this I would fight for: the
freedom of the mind to take any direction it wishes, undirected. And this I
must
fight against: any idea, religion, or government which limits or destroys
the
individual. This is what I am and what I am about. I can understand why a
system built on a pattern must try to destroy the free mind, for that is one
thing which can by inspection destroy such a system. Surely I can
understand
this, and I hate it and I will fight against it to preserve the one thing
that
separates us from the uncreative beasts. If the glory can be killed, we are
lost.

John Steinbeck, East of Eden, pp. 130-131, published 1952
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Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2003 11:50:47 -0400
From: "Julie Beebe" <jbeebe@irsd.k12.de.us>
Subject: Re: [mosaic] another resend/metacognition

Ginger,

Thanks for spelling out how you teach the strategies again. I have 4 weeks
until school starts and I have done nothing to get ready. I keep thinking
that I need to get a calendar out and sort of chart the strategies I want to
teach and get my read aloud books together (I did do some of that at the end
of the year). I think I just don't know where to start. Of course, I'm
still the only one in my school to teach the strategies. Ellin Keene is
coming in October. I'm hoping to get one person from each grade level to go
see her with me. I think this would get a lot started, since most of the
school doesn't even know what I'm doing. I am excited aobut starting school
and getting started though!

If any of you could explain what you do to get organized to teach, I would
REALLY APPRECIATE it!

Thanks,

Julie
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From: Opieomar@aol.com
Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2003 14:29:41 EDT
Subject: [mosaic] Introduction

Hi, my name is Kourtney Denning! I am a Second Grade Teacher at Green
Local
Schools. I have been doing a lot of research this summer with a focus on
The
Four Blocks Guided Reading. I am always looking for new ideas and look
forward to learning a lot from all of you.

Sincerely,
Kourtney Denning
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Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2003 13:14:17 -0800
Subject: Re: [mosaic] Elvis the REader/Introduction
From: Patricia Kimathi <pkimathi@earthlink.net>

I mark my books and when I share with my son and husband they have a fit
because they don't like their books marked. I taught my son not to mark in
books at an early age so he wouldn't destroy good books. Now I can't get
him out of it.
They don't even like to bend the pages in their books. Poor me.
I don't know if I introduced my self. I just came on board. You were
recommended by someone on 5-6 and ncte list serv. I teach fourth grade in
California. I was introduced to Mosaic years ago when I was part of a
literacy leadership cadre in California. We even had an opportunity to hear
the author (Keene) speak about her strategies. I had no idea how it would
change my life.
Teaching in Los Angeles California I have to use Open Court. I notice they
have stolen (borrowed) some of the strategies. So I continue to work with
the original materials and no one seems to notice the difference. But of
course I do and so do the students.
Pat Kimathi
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Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2003 13:16:48 -0800
Subject: Re: [mosaic] Analogies and private eye
From: Patricia Kimathi <pkimathi@earthlink.net>

I have only been with the group for a few days and have already gotten so
many ideas. This is wonderful. I also use Private Eye. Could who ever
uses it please make recommendations about how you use it. Does it help to
develop the reading strategies. Have I been missing something.
Thanks
Pat Kimathi
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From: "Kelley Kennedy" <kelleyken@msn.com>
Reply-To: mosaic@u46teachers.org
Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2003 10:19:23 -0500
To: <mosaic@u46teachers.org>
Subject: Re: [mosaic] MOT ? for the experts

Leah, I love the questions you raise. I use the term "schema" just because
my kids think it's a cool word. I even have it printed in fancy word art
and it hangs on the wall so we can always point to it during discussions.
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Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2003 14:01:24 -0800
Subject: Re: [mosaic] MOT ? for the experts
From: Patricia Kimathi <pkimathi@earthlink.net>

I think I will use word art to put up my new strategies. One of my students
just taught me how to use word art. I am a MAC person and have never seen
it on MAC.
What are fix- up strategies or at least where can I find them??
Pat Kimathi
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From: ADeWald40@aol.com
Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2003 18:52:08 EDT
Subject: [mosaic] introduction/instruction for isat boosting

Hello to all who are on the list serv,
I have been a silent partner--reading and trying to keep up with all the
wonderful suggestions and conversations about strategies for reading and
writing.
It is getting me motivated and excited to put all these things into action.
This year I will be going back to Reading Recovery and also teaching an
after school literacy club to third and fifth grade students to boost their
ISAT
scores. After taking the course of Mosaic of thoughts , it has rejuvenated
me and expanded my knowledge to beyond "Get your mouth ready". I
hope
to problem-solve and take my teaching to another level this year.
from Ann
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From: "RHOADES" <NMRPCR@WORLDPATH.NET>
Subject: Re: [mosaic] K2K and...
Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2003 18:30:28 -0700

I agree! I've put k2k aside and am picking up Susan Zimmerman's newest =
book "7 Keys to ... Comprehension" tomorrow. K2K didn't have much meat =
to it! Glad to hear someone else felt the same way.
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Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2003 16:39:34 -0700
From: Carol Lau <cllc@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [mosaic]word sorts

Thank you for reminding me about this. I have been trained at UN@Reno
in Words Their Way, but only managed to get part of the word sort
activities made when I got back home.I despise made file folder games,
etc. I really believe this developmental approach to spelling and word
recognition is the way to go, but I find it hard to fit in word study
groups- along with guided reading groups and literature conversation
groups and everything else.

This computer software for word sorting will be much more feasible for
me, especially since it records each student's accuracy and speed rates
on each sort. I also love that I can print (on the spot) any sorts that
I want students to practice or take home. This will be very practical
for me. No bells and whistles, just words. I love
that. Carol /2/CA
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Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2003 17:01:48 -0700 (PDT)
From: Thea W <wheewrites@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [mosaic] K2K and...

--- RHOADES <NMRPCR@WORLDPATH.NET> wrote:
> I agree! I've put k2k aside and am picking up Susan
> Zimmerman's newest book "7 Keys to ...
> Comprehension" tomorrow. K2K didn't have much meat
> to it! Glad to hear someone else felt the same way.

I felt a little sad when I read that, because for me,
who read it cover to cover, it hit me right where I
needed it. In a way, it is like Mosaic to me where
you are just in the thinker/writer's head learning all
about her views on conversation and my thinking
evolves as I read. It isn't as prescriptive as say,
Strategies That Work, but I have a much better
understanding of what I want conversations to look
like in my classroom and how to go about getting
there. I thought it fit nicely with the MOTly books
and with my goals for community building.

I have also been soaking up How's It Going which is
also about conversations, only this time in
teacher/student writing conferences. I wouldn't have
thought I was one who had trouble with conversations,
but both books have charged me up and gotten me ready
for floating on the sea of talk (borrowing from Judy M
there!)in my classroom!
thea2pa

=====
Thea/2/PA
http://www.vgsd.org/~twheeling
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Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2003 19:39:36 -0500
From: motthebug <maps@resourceroom.net>
Subject: [mosaic] Nonfiction

It's been a little while but I remember Chelsea House having really good
non-fiction -- lots of good pictures, clear text, good content.

Sue J, webmastress
http://www.resourceroom.net
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Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2003 21:00:57 -0400
Subject: [mosaic] New to the list
From: Martha Butler <mpbutler00@earthlink.net>

What an active list! I teach 6th grade Reading, Language Arts, Social
Studies and Math at Oak Lane Day School in Blue Bell PA. This will be
my second year of readers/writers workshops. Reading Mosaic of Thought
and working my way through HeinemannU's self paced course has got me
really excited for September. I am really interested in how MOT is
being implemented with 6th graders, and what short texts people use
with what strategies at this age.
Martha Butler
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Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2003 17:57:16 -0700
From: Carol Lau <cllc@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [mosaic] Analogies and private eye

When I read about the Private Eye program, it struck me that it is
asking students to make connections (to their schema) and describe the
connections through making an analogy. Analogies are higher level
thinking that help students to evoke images and synthesize
relationships. Don't you think? Carol.2/Ca
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Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2003 22:52:54 -0400
Subject: Re: [mosaic] Another book recommendation or two
From: Peggy Bahr <pbahr@mac.com>

Karla,

I'm glad you will be able to use the "homework at school" idea. It really
does pave the way for homework success the rest of the year.

Peggy
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From: "Joe & Karla McAdam" <jlmcadam3@ameritech.net>
Subject: Re: [mosaic] introduction/instruction for isat boosting
Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2003 22:08:43 -0500

Ann,

I can feel your excitement! The vibes are catchy on this listserv. I =
hope the start of your year goes well. Keep us posted.

~Karla
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From: "lois driggers" <loiso@dbtech.net>
Subject: Re: [mosaic] Book Suggestions Please
Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2003 09:36:09 -0700

Several folks have already sent you some good ideas, but as a former 4th =
grade teacher, I always looked at my course of study for social studies, =
science, health, and geography and tried to match books to them. For =
instance: for Alabama history, I got biographies of Helen Keller and =
other famous Alabamians; for science I made sure to have plenty of =
books about rocks, space, oceans, etc. Hopefully, this is helpful to =
you.

Lois
RC/AL
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From: MEHitzel@aol.com
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2003 01:00:44 EDT
Subject: [mosaic] Recommended Six Traits Site

Hi everyone! I've been gone for all of July and my sister and her children
are here for a week and a half. I'm still working my way through my emails.
My K2K book still hasn't come from amazon, but I've saved all the posts and
will read them when I finally get my book and get a chance to read it. My
official first day is 8/11, the kids start on the 14th. I know there was
quite a
few posts about six traits this past month and I wanted to recommend a
website
that is a terrific resource. It has several different rubrics for each
trait -
appropriate for different developmental levels, suggested mini-lessons, warm
up exercises, and lists of suggested picture books to use for teaching the
different traits. I printed everything and put it in a binder. Be patient.
It
takes a while to load. Hope some of you find it helpful, too.

Martha/4/5/az
http://danenet.wicip.org/mmsd-it/lang_arts/sixtrtcrsmtrl.htm
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From: "lois driggers" <loiso@dbtech.net>
Subject: Re: [mosaic] Recommended Six Traits Site
Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2003 10:09:25 -0700

Thanks for sharing this website. Over the last few years I have been =
extremely pleased with everything I have seen from Madison, WI. They are =
really on the "Literacy ball".

Thanks,
Lois
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From: "J Grand" <grandj@hotmail.com>
Subject: [mosaic] teacher's attic ed?
Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2003 05:24:34 +0000

Has anyone used www.theteachersattic.com to buy or sell ed stuff?

would you recommend it or not, & why?
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From: MEHitzel@aol.com
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2003 02:05:06 EDT
Subject: Re: [mosaic] MOT ? for the experts

In a message dated 8/3/2003 3:01:55 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
pkimathi@earthlink.net writes:

> Do you have this visual?

Another visual described on the teaching tools page is Robert the Reader. I
found a clip art of a boy with a thinking bubble over his head with a brain
in
the bubble on discoveryschool.com. I put the link to the picture at the
bottom but I'm not sure it will work. If not just go to
discoveryschool.com.
Click on the teacher tab. Click on clipart. Click on students. The title
of
the picture is boy wanting a brain. I put the picture onto an overhead and
copied it onto posterboard. I divided the brain up into six sections and
labeled
each one with one of the reading comprehension strategies.

http://school.discovery.com/clipart/clip/if-brain.html

Martha/4/5/az
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Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2003 08:10:00 -0700
From: "Patricia Browder" <pbrowder@woodburn.k12.or.us>
Subject: [mosaic] introduction

Hi,

I am a long-time bilingual teacher in Woodburn, Oregon(Heritage Ele.) and =
will be teaching 4th grade next year. Our school serves an interesting =
population, which includes many Spanish and Russian-speaking students.

I have been involved in strategy study(adult level) and instruction for =
approximately four years. My language arts instruction is in Spanish, so =
it is always a challenge to find good quality picture books to use for =
modeling, connections, and practice for the students. (Esp. for nonfiction=
!) Any ideas will be much appreciated.

I look forward to sharing ideas and learning from you all!
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From: MissWalsh1@aol.com
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2003 12:46:31 EDT
Subject: [mosaic] [mosiac] more ? for the experts

Dear MOTers,

Since I feel much better at posing questions than giving answers, I thought
I
would ask a few more things for those MOT experts out there...

In STW they talk about determining importance with non-fiction books only.
Is that how most of you approach this strategy? They discussed inferring
the
theme with fiction, and determining importance with non-fiction. I guess I
always considered the themes in fiction to be the main ideas of the story.
Has
my schema been misleading me? :)

Another question of mine is the difference between predicting and inferring.
They say that if you predict then you will find the answer in the text, and
inferring is going beyond the text. My question is, how do you know when
you
are making your prediction/inference if you will find the answer in the
text?
How do you teach the kids to use these terms correctly? Or do you just
reflect on your predictions at the end of reading the text and
metacognitively
realize that it was actually an inference, not a prediction? Or does it
matter?

Also, do any of you primary teachers recommend good non-fiction magazines to
subscribe to? I find that most of the ones I stumble across at book stores
have a slightly higher than second grade reading level. In the past we have
ordered Weekly Readers for our students, but I felt those articles were too
short
and didn't give enough information. I am looking for something with a
little
more to it, but wouldn't completely frustrate my 2nd graders. Suggestions?

I don't think I am getting all of the MOT emails, because some of you are
responding to emails that I never received. So, if you answer my questions
and I
don't respond to you I am sorry! However, I hope you don't mind me posing
these questions, because it really helps me think about the strategies. I
am
practicing my questioning!

Leah 2nd
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Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2003 13:20:05 -0400
From: Carroll Hockman <johcar79@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [mosaic] [mosiac] more ? for the experts

do any of
you primary teachers recommend good non-fiction magazines to subscribe
to? I find that most of the ones I stumble across at book stores
have a slightly higher than second grade reading level. In the past
we have ordered Weekly Readers for our students, but I felt those articles
were too short and didn't give enough information. I am looking for
something with a little more to it, but wouldn't completely frustrate my
2nd graders. Suggestions?

<I like Time for Kids. The News Scoop edition is for Grades 2/3. Here's
a link-
http://www.timeforkids.com/TFK/
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From: CAAstle@aol.com
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2003 13:59:10 EDT
Subject: Re: [mosaic] Reading Coordinator Job Descriptions

Hi, I am responding to two people's requests. Someone wanted to know the
role of a person in a literacy specialists position. Last school year was
my
first year as a literacy specialist. I will try and explain what I did that
year and then include a job description (which someone requested) that my
district used for this position.
My previous experience was that of a reading teacher and also a first grade
teacher. I work with seven elementary schools K-6. One goal was to get
everyone on the same page. After reading Mosaic of Thought and Strategies
That
Work, I developed a comprehension notebook to use last year. The previous
year I
developed the book and trained teachers at one elementary school on the
comprehension strategies. My plan last year was to focus on the first grade
teachers. During the year, as we covered a new strategy, I would meet with
the
principals and give them the information developed for each strategy. They,
in
turn, would pass this on to their staff. Throughout the year I set up
appointments with the 18 first grade teachers and would set up lessons, go
in and model
teach. Usually my lessons would go for two consecutive days - 45 minutes
each
day. I covered schema, sensory image, fix-up strategies, asking questions,
and also gave teachers ideas for developing background knowledge and
vocabulary
activities. This year I will cover determining importance, inference, and
synthesis along with fiction and nonfiction comprehension ideas and
application/extension activities as a whole staff project. Besides going
into the first
grade classes, I went to 3 second grade classes to prepare myself for this
year. I also taught lessons in the 5th and 6th grade classes on strategies,
but
did not make it to all of those classes. Another part of my job last year
was
to train teachers on the DRA (Development Reading Assessment) for K, 1st,
and
2nd. Then, we did the assessment for that in the fall, mid-year and spring.
I used the Title I staff to make charts and graphs for the teachers. This
year the 3rd grade will be doing the DRA and the 4, 5, and 6 grade levels
will
be looking at the new DRA and the QRI III in preparation for adopting one of
these next year. I also was a member of the literacy team from a local
university and taught teachers on comprehension basics. I also met with
principals
and individual and groups of teachers to review needs and provide
assistance. I
wrote 3 grants and purchased books for 1st grade teachers to modeling read
alouds and brought Debbie Miller to our school system for two days. Debbie
actually worked with the students as the 1st and 2nd grade teachers and
principals
observed. Also helped with the Language Arts committee. This year I will be
going into the 2nd grade classrooms and start again with the strategies but
take it a further step (after reading Knee to Knee) with more in-depth
discussions.

Here is the job description for K-6 Literacy Specialist
Classroom Support
1. Provide demonstration teaching for classroom teachers.
2. Conduct co-teaching with classroom teachers when necessary.
3. Provide coaching and support to classroom teachers regarding literacy
issues.
4. Meet with individual teachers to review needs and to provide necessary
assistance.
5. Meet with grade level teams to review needs and to provide necessary
assistance.
6. Interpret research and data to determine student instructional needs.
7. Assist with implementation of balanced literacy programs.
8. Act as a resource to teachers when planning and providing interventions
for students.
9. Provide support for new instructional staff.
Curriculum
10. Develop multilevel lesson plans for heterogeneous groups.
11. Work with Language Arts curriculum Writing committees.
12. Act as a resource for best practice and research in literacy.
Assessment
13. Assess professional development needs for the instructional staff.
14. Analyze, interpret, and assist staff with test data.
15. Provide training in district reading assessments.
16. Revise language arts assessments as necessary.
17. Serve as reading clinician.
Professional Development
18. Assist director of elementary Curriculum/State & Federal Programs to
provide staff professional development.
19. Provide assessment training, follow-up, and modeling.
20. Provide in-service training with district assessments for new staff.
21. Update principals on building needs, issues, and district goals.
22. Meet regularly with Title I Community & Parent Outreach Coordinator and
director of Elementary Curriculum to define and support district literacy
goals.
23. Perform other duties as assigned.
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From: Mayread@aol.com
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2003 16:51:50 EDT
Subject: Re: [mosaic] Non-Fiction Matters

Time for kids is great! The articles are interesting and you can definitely
used them to bring your content area reading into your reading workshop by
using these. Teacher created materials also has a guided reading kit using
time
for kids articles that is great. The texts are great and the lessons are
aligned
with the MOT strategies
Maria
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From: deborah a devine <debthereb@lightfirst.com>
Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2003 21:53:08 -0500
Subject: [mosaic] MOT/MATH/Vocabulary

Now, that school is about to begin, Ginger e-mailed me and asked that I
repost my ideas about how MOT, Math and Vocabulary all go together.

If you want your students to write about their thinking as they
solve math problems, you need to incorporate time into your word study
and/or spelling periods to include rich math vocabulary.
I use my spelling word lists once a month to teach related math
words to our unit of study in math. It really improves the quality of
their discussions about math and their writing about math.
Remember that students don't see the natural connection between
writing down their thinking and math. Reading and writing go
together...not math. So, the second week of school, my spelling words
and/or phrases are related to writing about math. I try to get them
started by providing some natural phrases that they will need as they
write. You'll see that they are transitional phrases. The list is:1)
First, I know 2) I already know 3)Next, my plan is 4) chart 5) graph
6) draw a picture 7)create a model 8) Lastly 9) So you can see 10) the
answer is 11) Does my answer make sense?
One of the activities that we do during math/vocabulary study time
is to cut apart a written math explanation and see if we could make
meaning of it by looking for tranisitional words. Then we reassembled
it back again, and I showed them the actual math problem that was
solved in this writing. (working backwards to see the whole structure)

Now, let me give you an example that might occur 4 weeks later when we
are studying probability. The spelling list would be: event, outcome
likely, unlikely, impossible, certain, chance, two out of three,
probably, area, spinner, and equal. One assignment would be "spelling
illustration" which are drawings which show the meaning of the word.
Another would be to write sentences under different spinners that have
been predrawn.
"On this spinner red is unlikely. The chance of red is 1 out of 5."
"It is impossible to land on red on this spinner, as the only colors
used are yellow and blue."
Another assignment would be to make flashcards that could be used to
teach someone this vocabulary. Imagine a flashcards with a spinner that
is colored 1/2 red and 1/2 blue. Under the drawing is the
question:"What are your chances to spin red? a)unlikely b) likely or c)
equal.(on the back of the card is the word, equal.)
When you come to a question in Week by Week Essentials all those
words just flow into the writing.
How did I know which words my 3rd graders needed in their
vocabulary? I started by going to our state education
site:www.isbe.net. Then I went into our state standardized test area or
ISAT. Then I went to the ISAT Mathematics Performance Definitions. I
went there because it's based on our state standards. In paragraph form
it gives written definitions of what a child who exceeds standards,
meets standards, is below standards, and would be on academic warning
can do. These descriptions are rich in math vocabulary.
Next, I looked in our Week by Week Essentials and decided if
additional vocabulary would be needed to explain probability at the
3rd Grade level. You could also check your math series and see what
vocabulary they used.
LASTLY, I USED THIS VOCABULARY AS I DISCUSSED events in our
classroom. For example, I might look at the team points on the
blackboard as say,"Which group is most likely to be the winning team
today?" Which team is unlikely to win." "Are their any teams that
have an equal chance of winning today?"
If this seems too easy...one week I had a list like this:
rectangular prism , triangular prism, hexagonal prism, octagonal prism,
two-dimensional, three-dimensional, symmetry, similar, net, pyramid,
cone, cube, cylinder, and sphere. My parents about had a fit! I just
wrote back that "3rd Graders in the United States were expected to know
these words." One activity that we did that week was to use sidewalk
chalk and draw the figures on the playground. Then we wrote out
spelling words next to the drawings. One mother made rectangular
prisms with graham crackers and icing with each of my children. Before
they could eat it, they then had to write rectangular prism and three-
dimensional on the easel. I gave them a warning to study those two
words the night before if they planned on eating their geometric shape.
I especially liked spelling the word dimensional...as we looked for
chunks. di men sion al. Suddenly it didn't seem as hard.
One teacher told me that my once a month math vocabulary spelling
words were a sneaky way to study more about math. "No, not sneaky. It's
very, very, deliberate." I replied.
Remember that I also post my math vocabulary on the word wall on
slips of paper that are all the same color...yellow for example. Some
of my students had mini-word walls pasted in their Math journals . i
think I might provide that for all my students this year.

According to my notes, the following teachers are planning to try Week
by Week Essentials this year and I have kept track of their e-mail
addresses. Adrienne, Barbara, Cherylle, Deborah, Erin, Findleyck,
Ginger, Juli, Judy, June, Ronda, Shelia, Terry,Roband maybe Carrie.My
daughter is going to help me set up an address book for those teachers
that I know are using this system so I can give you some extra
encouragement and help during the school year. E-mail me personally if
you are participating and not on the list at debthereb@lightfirst.com

By the end of the week, I'll have data about our State Test results
so we can look at the probability that this system really made a
difference or not. I'M BETTING THAT IT IS VERY LIKELY THAT IT WILL
MAKE A DIFFERENCE FOR MY STUDENTS. Or maybe I will change that
prediction to CERTAIN.

Deborah
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From: "Andy & Shelly Kennedy" <pristine@aclass.com>
Subject: [mosaic] organizing post-its
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2003 23:03:38 -0500

I have my kids put their post-it's in their reading response journals =
with a date and the task - glue stick them down.
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From: "Andy & Shelly Kennedy" <pristine@aclass.com>
Subject: [mosaic] determining importance? or schema?
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2003 23:08:42 -0500

Hi... I had the same question last year as this.....

I'm still wondering if Determining Importance shouldn't come early in =
the year. Here's why...we read lots of nonfiction (starting at the =
beginning of the year) and the whole story language of fiction =
(characters, plot, setting, etc., etc.) needs to be discussed early on. =
Help me out here...does schema have to be taught in isolation at the =
beginning of the year, or can you introduce these important aspects for =
different kinds of reading as you go along. I'm new at this...I want to =
do it right...

I just look at the different genres we read as "developing a schema for =
the elements of fiction" or non-fiction or biographies, etc.
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